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How about we just clean up the two major parties we have now. What a concept! We start in our counties. That's how it's done.
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The problem is the control of information flow or dissemination. From elementary school through college, from local news papers to national cable news and from local social media websites to the the giant conglomerates of internet data, the control of the information provided and the control of the narrative is what influences people's votes and decision making. It's nothing more and nothing less.
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With our current countrymen the only viable third party would have to be more moderate than what we would prefer. We woukd still be stuck in RINO hell just more of a minority than we already are.
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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There would have to be a second party before there can be a third. This ^^. The two parties pay lip service to various ideals but they are basically the same.
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The problem is the control of information flow or dissemination. From elementary school through college, from local news papers to national cable news and from local social media websites to the the leviathans of internet data, the control of the information provided and the control of the narrative is what influences people's votes and decision making. It's nothing more and nothing less. Correct and when you do that for 30 or 40 years its very effective and peoples idea of what America is supposed to be is changed. And not for the better
Life can be rough on us dreamers.
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There essentially is a third party, the MAGA Republicans......and yes I guess you could say there are votes being split between both "conservative" factions....they and the "establishment".
There are two ways to look at Georgia. You can say that Herschel was hurt by fraud and/or Kemp was helped by it. Or you can say that people voted for Kemp that also voted for Warnock.
The idea going in was if Kemp won handily it would help Walker. Didn't happen.
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3rd party backfires:
Perot got Clinton elected
Nader got Bush elected
Roosevelt got Wilson elected. And McConnell, The RNC, and The Republican Establishment Gave us Biden by helping steal it away from Trump, so what’s the difference
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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How about we just clean up the two major parties we have now. What a concept! We start in our counties. That's how it's done. Can’t Be Done Not when the opposition party (R) is complicit in the corruption and the fraud.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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3rd parties are a formula for eternally losing. True, but the Republican Party, refuses to fight, refuses to accept that Fraud exists, spends more time and money keeping the Riff-Raff out of their private club than confronting Democrats, are totally comfortable being in The Minority , what can it hurt to introduce a third party? It’s not like the Republicans are ever going to “win” again, especially if they don’t want too, so how can a third party hurt You are speaking too logically , again. Why anyone holds out hope for the republicans to actually represent their constituency at this point is way beyond me. ...and when someone says "whatdya got to lose"? they still cling to the devil they know. It explains completely the NRA still existing.
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Oregon had a "spoiler" 3rd candidate for governor that siphoned off 8% of the vote, so our R candidate is 1% behind the openly gay democrat right now.
God help us.
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Abortion would have been a TOTAL non issue if the Republican and POS like Graham didn’t intentionally sabotage the Red Wave with there comments
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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What we need MORE THAN ANYTHING is TERM LIMITS for US Senate and House of Representatives.
8 year term limits just like on a president!
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And the NWO would not be able to election fraud that jugger not?
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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What we need MORE THAN ANYTHING is TERM LIMITS for US Senate and House of Representatives.
8 year term limits just like on a president! And the NWO Cabal will somehow bend over for that? Not happening until Trump comes back.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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What we need MORE THAN ANYTHING is TERM LIMITS for US Senate and House of Representatives.
8 year term limits just like on a president! More like 4 years and done !
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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Do you have dual citizenship?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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3rd party backfires:
Perot got Clinton elected
Nader got Bush elected
Roosevelt got Wilson elected. PREZACTLY.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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3rd party??
Ta fouck outta here wit dat That 3rd party bull$hit with Ross Perot got us Slick Willie and the Hillmonster.
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The problem is the control of information flow or dissemination. From elementary school through college, from local news papers to national cable news and from local social media websites to the the leviathans of internet data, the control of the information provided and the control of the narrative is what influences people's votes and decision making. It's nothing more and nothing less. Correct and when you do that for 30 or 40 years its very effective and peoples idea of what America is supposed to be is changed. And not for the better It is something more. When 50% + of the national population is dependent upon a government check, they are not going to vote for any candidate promising fiscal responsibility. We all knew 47 years ago that America had exceeded her life expectancy as it typically takes about 200 years for people to vote their nation into bankruptcy. I predict balkanization.
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