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Take it out and shoot it at 600 yards and a few points in between, if you haven't already, so you know what it does before you throw lead at a deer.

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30-30 Winchester from Winchester Ammunition:
150 grain
Muzzle 100 Yards 200 Yards
Velocity (FPS) 2390 2040 1723
Energy (FT/LB) 1902 1386 989
Drop (Inches) / 0 -7.5

Of course your cartridge is going a little faster at 200yds. I don't think a deer will care.

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Originally Posted by tzone
I want to see you point out a deer at 600 yds.

Shoot what you’re comfortable too.
Larry Root shoots em farther than that

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What kind of POS 6.5G are you shooting that you are 400 FPS slower than normal loads..?


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Anybody that joined here in 2016 and only has 140 post shouldn't even be allowed to buy a hunting license, much less be allowed to hunt with a 6.5 😁

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Originally Posted by BALLISTIK
What kind of POS 6.5G are you shooting that you are 400 FPS slower than normal loads..?

I thought the same thing. My 22 inch barrel Howa Mini gives 2650 fps on my 123 SST handloads.

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Take the Grendel! These guys don't know s hit from shineola!!


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I mostly read what Slum and Remi put down esp this time of year

The TTSX load is one that company that I got my upper receiver from loaded it is very slow. I am shooting from a 16 inch barrel

I can switch to a 123 grain Hornady SST @ 2385 FPS factory ammo from the muzzle.

100 yards Velocity is 2220 fps with 1346 ft-lbs of Energy
200 yards Velocity is 2062 fps with 1161 ft-lbs of Energy
300 yards Velocity is 1910 fps with 997 ft-lbs of Energy
400 yards Velocity is 1766 fps with 852 ft-lbs of Energy
500 yards Velocity is 1630 fps with 726 ft-lbs of Energy
600 yards Velocity is 1504 fps with 618 ft-lbs of Energy

I have not had time to develop my own handload

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It’s not a 600 yard gun. Fugk


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If you're going to just start randomly shooting at 600 yards you need at least a 270 Winchester.

Or a 300 mag.

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I doubt that I shoot more than 400 yards but I dont want to have a poor blood trail or recover the animal. I am trying to figure out with my short barrel what I can stretch it too. I did not know that the TTSX did not open up well under 1800 fps.
I know alot of guys here reload. I have only killed on deer over 500 yards in my life.

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Originally Posted by H5farm
I mostly read what Slum and Remi put down esp this time of year

The TTSX load is one that company that I got my upper receiver from loaded it is very slow. I am shooting from a 16 inch barrel

I can switch to a 123 grain Hornady SST @ 2385 FPS factory ammo from the muzzle.

100 yards Velocity is 2220 fps with 1346 ft-lbs of Energy
200 yards Velocity is 2062 fps with 1161 ft-lbs of Energy
300 yards Velocity is 1910 fps with 997 ft-lbs of Energy
400 yards Velocity is 1766 fps with 852 ft-lbs of Energy
500 yards Velocity is 1630 fps with 726 ft-lbs of Energy
600 yards Velocity is 1504 fps with 618 ft-lbs of Energy

I have not had time to develop my own handload
Again, I'd keep the max range at 300 yards or so, but the SST load is likely to perform better at that max range. Take it!!!


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Unless you're accustomed to taking game at over 300 yards and up to 600 yards, I would not recommend that you attempt it without a great deal of practice at those distances and until you feel you are proficient enough to do so.

There's no shame at all in knowing your limits and sticking to them. Wait for a shot or position yourself for a shot within your limitations.

I also cast my vote for the .257 bee for any shot over about 200 yds.


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Do you have dials on that scope, and have you practiced with them.....alot?

If not anyone saying that combo's good out to 600 yards is smoking crack.

For the moment, let's ignore that you're past the optimum velocity window for this bullet at 250 yards.

With a 250 yard zero, you're 20 MOA or almost 11 feet low at 600 yards, and in just the next 25 yards you drop an additional 18 inches.

With a 10 mph full value cross wind your off 4 and a half feet at 600 and a full 5 feet at 625.

My advice, take a real gun, something like a .257 bee would be perfect.

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Input Data
Manufacturer:	Barnes	Description:	Triple-Shock™ X Boattail
Caliber:	0.264 in	Weight:	120.0 gr
Ballistic Coefficient:	0.381 G1 (ASM)		
Muzzle Velocity:	2280.0 ft/s	Distance to Chronograph:	10.0 ft
Sight Height:	1.50 in	Sight Offset:	0.00 in
Zero Height:	0.00 in	Zero Offset:	0.00 in
Windage:	0.000 MOA	Elevation:	0.000 MOA
Line Of Sight Angle:	0.0 deg	Cant Angle:	0.0 deg
Wind Speed:	10.0 mph	Wind Angle:	90.0 deg
Target Speed:	10.0 mph	Target Angle:	90.0 deg
Target Height:	12.0 in		
Temperature:	59.0 °F	Pressure:	29.92 in Hg
Humidity:	0 %	Altitude:	0.0 ft
Vital Zone Radius:	5.0 in		
Std. Atmosphere at Altitude:	No	Pressure is Corrected:	Yes
Zero at Max. Point Blank Range:	No	Target Relative Drops:	Yes
Mark Sound Barrier Crossing:	No	Include Extra Rows:	No
Column 1 Units:	1.00 in	Column 2 Units:	1.00 MOA
Round Output to Whole Numbers:	No		
Output Data
Elevation:	10.022 MOA	Windage:	0.000 MOA
Atmospheric Density:	0.07647 lb/ft³	Speed of Sound:	1116.4 ft/s
Maximum PBR:	273 yd	Maximum PBR Zero:	232 yd
Range of Maximum Height:	129 yd	Energy at Maximum PBR:	790.0 ft•lbs
Sectional Density:	0.246 lb/in²		
Calculated Table
Range	Drop	Drop	Windage	Windage	Velocity	Mach	Energy	Time	Lead	Lead
(yd)	(in)	(MOA)	(in)	(MOA)	(ft/s)	(none)	(ft•lbs)	(s)	(in)	(MOA)
0	-1.5	***	0.0	***	2287.5	2.049	1394.0	0.000	0.0	***
25	0.9	3.5	0.1	0.3	2231.7	1.999	1326.9	0.033	5.8	22.3
50	2.9	5.5	0.3	0.6	2176.8	1.950	1262.3	0.067	11.8	22.6
75	4.4	5.6	0.7	0.8	2122.5	1.901	1200.2	0.102	18.0	22.9
100	5.4	5.2	1.2	1.1	2069.1	1.853	1140.5	0.138	24.3	23.2
125	6.0	4.6	1.9	1.4	2016.4	1.806	1083.2	0.175	30.7	23.5
150	6.0	3.8	2.7	1.7	1964.6	1.760	1028.2	0.212	37.4	23.8
175	5.4	2.9	3.8	2.1	1913.5	1.714	975.5	0.251	44.2	24.1
200	4.2	2.0	5.0	2.4	1863.4	1.669	925.0	0.291	51.2	24.4
225	2.4	1.0	6.4	2.7	1814.1	1.625	876.7	0.331	58.3	24.8
250	-0.0	-0.0	8.0	3.1	1765.7	1.582	830.6	0.373	65.7	25.1
275	-3.1	-1.1	9.8	3.4	1718.3	1.539	786.5	0.416	73.3	25.5
300	-7.0	-2.2	11.8	3.8	1671.8	1.497	744.6	0.461	81.1	25.8
325	-11.7	-3.4	14.1	4.1	1626.4	1.457	704.7	0.506	89.1	26.2
350	-17.2	-4.7	16.5	4.5	1582.1	1.417	666.8	0.553	97.3	26.6
375	-23.5	-6.0	19.2	4.9	1538.9	1.378	630.9	0.601	105.8	26.9
400	-30.8	-7.3	22.1	5.3	1497.0	1.341	597.0	0.650	114.5	27.3
425	-39.0	-8.8	25.3	5.7	1456.2	1.304	564.9	0.701	123.4	27.7
450	-48.3	-10.2	28.7	6.1	1416.8	1.269	534.8	0.753	132.6	28.1
475	-58.6	-11.8	32.4	6.5	1378.8	1.235	506.4	0.807	142.1	28.6
500	-70.1	-13.4	36.3	6.9	1342.2	1.202	479.9	0.862	151.8	29.0
525	-82.8	-15.1	40.5	7.4	1307.1	1.171	455.2	0.919	161.7	29.4
550	-96.7	-16.8	45.0	7.8	1273.7	1.141	432.2	0.977	172.0	29.9
575	-112.0	-18.6	49.7	8.3	1241.8	1.112	410.9	1.037	182.5	30.3
600	-128.7	-20.5	54.7	8.7	1211.8	1.085	391.2	1.098	193.2	30.8
625	-146.9	-22.4	60.0	9.2	1183.6	1.060	373.2	1.161	204.2	31.2
650	-166.7	-24.5	65.5	9.6	1157.2	1.036	356.7	1.225	215.5	31.7
675	-188.0	-26.6	71.3	10.1	1132.7	1.015	341.8	1.290	227.1	32.1
700	-211.1	-28.8	77.3	10.5	1109.9	0.994	328.2	1.357	238.8	32.6
725	-235.9	-31.1	83.5	11.0	1088.9	0.975	315.9	1.425	250.9	33.0
750	-262.6	-33.4	90.0	11.5	1069.5	0.958	304.7	1.495	263.1	33.5
775	-291.1	-35.9	96.7	11.9	1051.5	0.942	294.5	1.566	275.6	34.0
800	-321.6	-38.4	103.6	12.4	1034.7	0.927	285.2	1.638	288.2	34.4
825	-354.2	-41.0	110.7	12.8	1019.0	0.913	276.6	1.711	301.1	34.8
850	-388.8	-43.7	117.9	13.2	1004.4	0.900	268.7	1.785	314.1	35.3
875	-425.6	-46.5	125.4	13.7	990.5	0.887	261.4	1.860	327.4	35.7
900	-464.7	-49.3	133.1	14.1	977.4	0.875	254.5	1.936	340.8	36.2
925	-506.0	-52.2	140.9	14.5	965.0	0.864	248.1	2.014	354.4	36.6
950	-549.6	-55.2	148.9	15.0	953.1	0.854	242.0	2.092	368.2	37.0
975	-595.6	-58.3	157.1	15.4	941.8	0.844	236.3	2.171	382.2	37.4
1000	-644.1	-61.5	165.4	15.8	930.9	0.834	230.9	2.252	396.3	37.8


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If your not using a 300 RUM and 150 gr Hornady round nose, then you’re doing it wrong.

If you have to ask, and don’t know what you need, stick to what you know.

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If you are questioning it Here you already know the answer. 120 grain bullet at 2000 is a recipe for lots of tracking unless you shoot it perfectly. Brain or spine at any range.

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I have custom turret dials for the .257. I have shot it out to 700 yards.

I can dial the MOA turret on the grendel fairly easy with a cheat sheet taped to the gun.

I also have a 300 win mag but thats getting a little crazy in my opinion for a whitetail.

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Originally Posted by H5farm
First off thank you for all the people who will say you can kill a deer ethically with a 22 Mag all the way up to you need to hit them like a Mack Truck and shouldn't shoot less that a 180 grain slug.

My question is: I built a new rifle in 6.5 Grendel. I only get to hunt and have shots in my area to about at the most maybe 300 yards. I know the Grendel is more than enough for that. The kicker is that I got invited to hunt on a place with some old friends for a few days where there are reportedly 600 yard shots. Not that anyone should attempt to take a deer at 600 yards, but I would like to take my new rifle and not lug around my heavy barreled .257 Weatherby Mag. I shot the Grendel suppressed and it has zero recoil. I also don't want to wound one and mess up others hunting.

My gun is shooting a 120 grain Barnes TTSX @ 2280 FPS from the muzzle.

100 yards Velocity is 2082 fps with 1155 ft-lbs of Energy
200 yards Velocity is 1894 fps with 956 ft-lbs of Energy
300 yards Velocity is 1718 fps with 786 ft-lbs of Energy
400 yards Velocity is 1554 fps with 644 ft-lbs of Energy
500 yards Velocity is 1407 fps with 527 ft-lbs of Energy
600 yards Velocity is 1278 fps with 435 ft-lbs of Energy

Some people say 600 is good for the cartridge because the bullet is still supersonic.
Some people say 250 to 300 is the max due to the ft-lbs of energy.

What do you say???
Pretty weak azz rd energy wise.
You would be lucky to get a exit wound beyond 300 with it and it would be a miracle for it to slip between ribs going in and out to do it at 300 I bet.

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Originally Posted by H5farm
I can also shoot a 123 Grain Hornady SST in the Grendel.

I probably should just carry the 12 pound .257 Mag. It is hilly and some elevation mostly hunting from the ground on 1200 acres of hard woods and pasture mix. I will be on the ground and still hunting. I have not hunted this place in 20 years.

The 257 Mag is shooting a 100 grain Barnes TTSX @ 3652 FPS from the muzzle.

100 yards Velocity is 3338 fps with 2475 ft-lbs of Energy
200 yards Velocity is 3047 fps with 2062 ft-lbs of Energy
300 yards Velocity is 2774 fps with 1709 ft-lbs of Energy
400 yards Velocity is 2518 fps with 1408 ft-lbs of Energy
500 yards Velocity is 2276 fps with 1151 ft-lbs of Energy
600 yards Velocity is 2049 fps with 932 ft-lbs of Energy
You just answered your own question with the 257 data.

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Originally Posted by H5farm
I mostly read what Slum and Remi put down esp this time of year

The TTSX load is one that company that I got my upper receiver from loaded it is very slow. I am shooting from a 16 inch barrel

I can switch to a 123 grain Hornady SST @ 2385 FPS factory ammo from the muzzle.

100 yards Velocity is 2220 fps with 1346 ft-lbs of Energy
200 yards Velocity is 2062 fps with 1161 ft-lbs of Energy
300 yards Velocity is 1910 fps with 997 ft-lbs of Energy
400 yards Velocity is 1766 fps with 852 ft-lbs of Energy
500 yards Velocity is 1630 fps with 726 ft-lbs of Energy
600 yards Velocity is 1504 fps with 618 ft-lbs of Energy

I have not had time to develop my own handload
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Listen to me and slumlord???


Furthest I ever shot a deer was about 135 yds with a .308 165gr bullet out in Colorado

Next furthest was around 115 120 yds on slumlords place with a 8mm 196gr grain bullet.


Weight with velocity matters. that equals shock and pass thru,s for exit wounds and bleed outs.

Shooting light bullets at low velocities is the way to wound and lose game and poor blood trails from not getting exit wounds. IMO

Plenty of 1 lung shot deer survive.
Not many survive at all with both lungs blown out and a exit wound.

Better to have enough gun than not have enough gun.

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