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I have a Kimber 8400 300WSM... The gun had no problems up until yesterday. I had a new scope put on and then went to the range. I fired about 40 shots in a couple hours, however, it was one shell at a time. I went hunting this morning and noticed that the shells loaded a little harder then normal when putting 3 shells in the magazine. When I closed the bolt on the last shell in the chamber I noticed the bolt closed a little tight as well. So, I pulled the shell out of the chamber and decided to cycle all the shells through instead of dumping them out of the bottom.. Well, the shells won't feed, and the 1 that did (last shell in magazine) had the tip banged up when I looked at it. When I push the bolt in the top shell gets driven straight ahead and the bullet doesn't get its nose up in order to travel into the action. This is something brand new with this gun, it used to feed just fine. I'm no gunsmith and know very little about the mechanical workings of rifles, so for those of you in the know, your gonna have to explain it like you would to a novice. Thanks guys..
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If you left the rifle at the Smiths, I would check the serial number to be sure it is your rifle.
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What's the serial number range?
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Take it out of the stock and look at the front of the magazine box. Sometimes loading single shots allows the magazine follower under recoil to hammer the front of the box, distorting it. If that's the problem, Kimber will likely replace the box. Load multiple shots in the future.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Kimber Rifles that so many of us have found.........
However I am Sorry to hear about you problem.....
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Alright... My gun has gremlins.. Cleaned it up and took it to a gun shop. The gunsmith looked at it, and didn't notice anything wrong. Ran some Nosler Accubonds through it and guess what, feeds like a charm. I took it home and ran the same box of partitions through it that wouldn't feed before and still feeds great. I have no idea what it was, maybe some crud or something that I dislodged when I cleaned it, but it was really wierd. It back to the Kimber I love... BTW.. This had always been a sub MOA gun, However, I bought a box of cheap Winchester 180gr bullets and Wow... Three shot sub 1/2 group!! All three shots touching with 2 of them basically in the same hole...
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THe cartridge overall length might be the problem, as well.
I start a new rifle's loading by running a factory remington round in the same weight bullet I intend to use into the seater die, then adjusting the seater plug to that bullet.
I've never had a problem with reloads using this method.
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I have no idea what it was, maybe some crud or something that I dislodged when I cleaned it, but it was really wierd. Glad you got her working again but if this was due to "crud" then that blows a hole in the CRF fan's sail! I thought CRFs were suppose to be fail safe? I doubt it was crud, there is no way crud can malfunction a CRF!  No way!  MtnHtr
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I have a Kimber 8400 300WSM... The gun had no problems up until yesterday. I had a new scope put on and then went to the range. I fired about 40 shots in a couple hours, however, it was one shell at a time. I went hunting this morning and noticed that the shells loaded a little harder then normal when putting 3 shells in the magazine. When I closed the bolt on the last shell in the chamber I noticed the bolt closed a little tight as well. So, I pulled the shell out of the chamber and decided to cycle all the shells through instead of dumping them out of the bottom.. Well, the shells won't feed, and the 1 that did (last shell in magazine) had the tip banged up when I looked at it. When I push the bolt in the top shell gets driven straight ahead and the bullet doesn't get its nose up in order to travel into the action. This is something brand new with this gun, it used to feed just fine. I'm no gunsmith and know very little about the mechanical workings of rifles, so for those of you in the know, your gonna have to explain it like you would to a novice. Thanks guys..
Jet When Kimber first came out with their 84M Classic, I bought one in .308 Win. Right from the start, it would not feed from the magazine. Brought it back to the store. They sent it back to Kimber. Kimber sent me a new one. Same exact problem. Brought it back to the store, store owner said let's find you one that works. We went through the two he had on display, and only one of them would feed correctly, even if roughly, so I took that in exchange, and he sent the defective rifles back to Kimber. That's my Kimber experience. Never bought another Kimber. Like my pre-64 Winchester 70s just fine, thank you very much.
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I asked about your serial number as the early 8400's (and until recently the 84's) had a relatively steep feedramp that was redesigned to a 10 degree shallower angle... feeding definitely improved.
No WSM feeds superbly, but most can be made to feed good enough. The Rem 700's I've used in various WSM's are among the worst...
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Brad... What serial number range am I looking for? My gun is 2 years old, so I believe its the older 8400.. The gun feeds well though, and this was just a really wierd incident. I may get slammed for this, but, my Kimber feeds almost as well as my pre64 270..... Almost...
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I don't know if it helps but I clean the magazine box from time to time and lubricate the edges of the floor plate with Rem Oil, and rub the sidewalls with a light coat of rem oil. I have not had any feeding problems with my 6 month old Kimber WSM. Mine worked well on Friday to take an 8 point deer at 22 yards with a 180 AB.
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What Brad is getting to is that someplace around the KW15000 serial #, Kimber re-designed the feed ramp for the WSM's. The new one I worked with on Friday was KW18000+ so I believe yours easily will be pre KW15000. Glad to hear the magazine is feeding fine. Would have been nice to come up with a cause though.
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.......dubious argument based on a purely hypothetical set of facts..that's convincing!
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My first guess is that the person who put the scope on your rifle took the stock off. When he put the stock back on the end of the follower spring was caught back and therefore the front of the magazines follower was tipped down and would not lift the front of the cartridges.
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Savage.. What your suggesting sounds about right.. The front of the cartridges wasn't coming up. But, the stock remained on the rifle, I watched the guy mount the scope. I'm thinking that maybe something was messing with the spring.. But I have no idea... It really was weird....
Will Kimber put the new designed feed ramp on older models like they do with the old 84m's that had the two position safety??
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Just take a rasp file to that feed ramp... easy peasy...
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