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Originally Posted by tater74
B-17 pilot was a friend of my brother.

He seemed to be relatively straight and level.

Not sure what was going on with the 63.


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Originally Posted by tater74
B-17 pilot was a friend of my brother.
Damn sorry to hear that.
Absolutely sucks.

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So it was Texas Raiders. frown RIP men. They were all so nice, showed me through the plane along with several others and their kids.

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Captain obvious here why were they at the same elevation, should have been at least 150 ,200 feet apart, did someone drift ???

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Originally Posted by Phillip_Nesmith
So it was Texas Raiders. frown RIP men. They were all so nice, showed me through the plane along with several others and their kids.

My nephew took a ride on one of those B-17’s a few years ago. Don’t know if it was that one.


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That’s horrible, so sad to see this.

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My wife and I were out to eat at an outdoor restaurant by Galveston Bay just two weeks ago and I heard the distinctive sound of radial engines. A B-17 flew over and it most likely was Texas Raiders as it is seen in the area from time to time. I was always in awe of seeing it and remarked to my wife how fortunate we were to have seen it so many times as they are so few now left flying. So very sad to learn of this. A terrible loss of life and loss of an historical artifact.


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Videos from several different sources and locations.




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6 perished.

RIP men.

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According to this there are 8 B-17s still airworthy.

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Absolutely unreal that this could happen! I feel for those families!


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Originally Posted by Morewood
According to this there are 8 B-17s still airworthy.

Other than the loss of life, the other sad part is we have lost 3 airworthy B-17’s in very recent years.

1). First the “Liberty Belle” to an engine fire. She landed safely in a field and everyone got off, but the fire trucks couldn’t reach her and she was a total loss.

2). Then “Nine O’ Nine” from the Collings Foundation was involved in a crash after a mechanical issue. There is some debate on whether the pilot made some mistakes (no emergency was declared), but all on board perished.

3). Now “Texas Raiders” with a mid-air collision. Loss of all on board.

Really sad all the way around!

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so very sad, and it could have been prevented. Gods comfort for the survivors.

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Bad day. Sad to see another 17 go.


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These are very old planes. Could something have gone wrong on the P-63 at just the wrong time? Could the pilot had a medical problem?
The way it happened just seems strange to me.

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Wiki has it the P-63 was coming in steep to the runway approach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Dallas_airshow_mid-air_collision

According to witness accounts and videos posted to social media, the P-63F was performing a high-speed banked turn onto the runway approach while shedding altitude.

Low pass for the crowd?

Perhaps one aircraft or the other was off schedule.


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I ran across another video from another angle. Many planes were in the air at the time.

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I bought a ride on a B17 some years ago in Roanoke,VA. I had 15 minutes in the left seat. Cost me $500. I don't remember the tail #. The ride was worth every penny !!


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This is so awful, I’m heartbroken for the victims, their families and the spectators who had to see that. It’s terrible.

I’ve changed careers and I fly for a living now, several jet type ratings, Multiple models of King Airs, heavy twins and occasionally light twins and singles. Part 135 and part 91. Jets, turbo-props, radials, pistons on wheels floats and ski’s. Im familiar with the CAF since there is a very active wing close by, they have inquired with me to see if I was interested in flying for them.

I watched that very short clip of the collision. Multiple airplanes in a couple directions

I’m not an expert, and I apologize if I’m out of line, but who else is is concerned with the safety record of the CAF?

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