It has the original Lyman peep from the factory. I only popped off a few rounds, not wanting to put it through too much not being sure about using current factory ammo.... hence the reason for using the custom lite. It was actually the first time I have ever fired a 30-06. Never owned one before. I plan on working on tightening that group in the near future!
I don't think it would be that delicate. You just might want to be conservative on feeding it a steady diet of the more warmer loads. But for your own educations keep an eye on the cases for signs of trouble. Look for blown back and flattened primers, neck splits, base separations and anything else out of the ordinary for a healthy looking spent case.
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Sorry I can't help with a mag beyond suggesting "Wanted" Post perhaps in Gunboards Forums if a member there.
Otherwise... Just caught up with this Thread for the first time. Very little chat over these models. I have Models 40, 45 and the Model 20. Noting the last mainstream Model thread in yr 2020. Just updating a bit as adding my thoughts.
The model 20 was indeed was an 'early' production sporting bolt rifle. I've more than a few times heard it referred to as "first" US production of the turn-bolt genre. Not so. The Newton bolt rifle rifle of the teens was first. I have both the First and a Buffalo Newton! They were both of "mauser' pattern.
That said, the Savage Model 20 was a great rifles of its era. Extremely lightweight as quite stout & durable. Bit too much drop in buttstock for my likings but otherwise nice! One of mine was modified for scope and it works out, but not the best. The Model 20 was a conventional front locking action!
he Model 40 & 45 need to be viewed 'in context'. They were Depression era, 'price point' competitors with the Remington Model 30 and the Winchester 54. Just that. The aft locking system is proven a good durable system. The central consideration of aft locking genre is of receiver strength. Not just thickness but also material. Nickel Steel was the prevalent material of the day. Win & Rem both used it. I don't know about the Savage line and even the barrels I've seen didn't recite any steel nomenclature visible. Many good rifles were made with good old carbon steel including most all mausers 'apparently'. I'm with those that say the key is 'no hot loads in 30-06. These guns weren't intended for heavy use either. But they were fine 'purpose built' rifles for 'average use'. Below, Models 40 & 45 came in early and late versions or magazine release. with 40 early bottom latch and 45 with pronounced button side mag release! "Prominent" one stop short of toilet handle! Both above in 30-06. Last pix as 'bonus', one of a Savage Model 1920/26, last iteration of the Model 1920 with special aperture sight. In 300 Savage. Its barrel reciting "High Pressure Steel". So...! My take Best! John
The "Clip Seeker" didn't initiate a new Thread. He "appended to one with information trending of about a decade. I took the opportunity to respond to the wider context of such. Not a lot of info 'in the wild' comparatively concerning these Models.
And yes, I enjoy informing about subjects that interest me and seem worthy of addressing. Anyone has the privilege of ignoring. Or, as you, of critiquing inclusive of condemning! There is a wider purpose to these Forums than 'merely answering' immediate questions of narrow context. "Informing" in the wider perspective of many readers who may have interest in these Models. For me, what you call "boredom", I call "enthusiasm".
If to critique, 99Guy... To conjure the time worn stock comment quoting Admiral Yamamoto regarding invading America. Not only dated, but even as cast, his own frivolous metaphor or old. Japan with neither interest nor viable capability to "invade" America. Only to "intimidate and deter" our entry into a conflict impeding their grand Colonial ambitions of expansionism. Their strategic target, islands Southward. Having their way unimpeded of American sea power and of American will to defend. Excepting Australia, yet a continent of British responsibility. 'Other', remote islands as useless to American interests. As war in Europe and American cultural ties as yet unwillingness to enter beyond Lendlease. Surely greater reluctance to defend islands of no cultural connection. Yamamoto's comment to be taken in the negative, as while America a formidable land to invade, the island populations little credible firepower hinderance. Moved to the nowadays American small arms relevance to hypersonic nuclear missiles deterrence... Kindly Sir, what's your point! Factoring number of guns in grass consequence as factoring heads in A**! Our gun rights to be cast as "clear & PRESENT 'DOMESTIC DANGER' as "relevant"!
My retired fun inclusive of defending against those who have nothing better to do than criticize others. Lets just be friends! Best! John
I have a Model 45, looking for a magazine. Any info would be appreciated.
As shown in Iskra's pictures, there were 2 different magazine latch styles on the SuperSporters and in my experience magazines designed to work with one style don't, or don't always, work well with the other style. I had a 40 in 300 SAV that had the wrong, bottom latch style, magazine inserted into a button latch style rifle. The magazine was locked and took me more than a little effort and time to remove. Not a deal breaker, but a PITA never the less.
The only SuperSporter that I've handled within the past few years was a nearly mint early style 45 in 30-30.
Looking back, I've owned at least one SuperSporter chambered for each of the 4 cartridges that they were made in; 250-3000, 30-30, 300, and 30-26, but some were 40s and some were 45s. I had a late style 45 in 250-3000 that I really wanted to like, but the crappy trigger got in the way. The coolest 45 that I ever handled was one that had been rebarreled to 219 Zipper by Larry Koller and owned by his son, Paul.
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These were decent "price point" rifles! Unique design for their era. They just weren't the Savage Model 1920 design and that's a bit of a pity. I own several because I do appreciate them. In 30-06, as noted the rifle, as many, need to be in good condition and no hot loads. The latter is the main problem as "overpressure tolerance" is small. As also noted, the trigger isn't very good. Not by standards of its era and certainly not what we expect today. Just think "era gun" and enjoy it for what it is. Mine; 2 in '06 and one in 30-30, which I prefer. I like bolt rifles in that chambering of 30-30 aka .30 W.C.F.; I have: the referenced Model 40 + a Rem 788 and several Win Models 54 carbines & one rifle - sweet guns!
I'd love to have a US Krag in 30-30 but something of huge deal to convert and I'm not into recreating a "Wright Flyer" for similar cost!
Both above in 30-06. 