Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Updating windows 8 to 10

I would argue that any ideas of Privacy these days is merely a supposition.

Not suggesting that we make it easy for them, but at the end of the day, someone, somewhere is monitoring everything digital.

I tried downloading the Windows 10 system onto a thumb drive from an old Windows 7 computer. I kept getting error messages so everything would stop and I found no useable information about fixing the problems. I do have a Windows 10 lap top I rarely use. I am currently down loading the Windows 10 program onto the thumb drive and I got NO errors messages.

The reason I am so persistent getting the Windows 10 downloaded to a thumb drive I is have 3 computers to update. One is a 2009 Samsung NC10. It's a small lap top I took to Afghanistan with me. I have nothing to lose if the update doesn't work. The other 2 are used daily. One by my wife and she is very reluctant to give it up. So, one computer is practice and the 2nd computer is the back up computer but the 3rd is the one my wife uses and she is not very happy about losing Windows 7.

If Windows 10 won't work on the NC10, it's getting a linex system. The other 2 computers I'd like to update. The backup computer might get a Linex system if Windows 10 commits suicide. But the one my wife uses might get an upgrade to 11 whether the wife likes it or not.

kwg

If I may, you're going the long way around the tree. The best way is to have a computer with an internet connection and zero files that need to be saved.
Microsoft likely has a huge library of computers with hardware just like yours they have already updated 10's of thousands of times successfully. I would just let them update it and it will likely be painless.

When windows installs initially it is looking at your specific hardware and the software generally won't have to be overwritten at a later date.

Buy a Mac and never look back

The NC10 has no files I need to save. The other 2 will have files that need saved. I'm not sure what you are getting at. I tried to download the windows 10 onto the NC 10 but I kept getting error messages. There is a program you have to download and have running to download the windows 10 files. It's that first program that down loads and when you RUN it, it only works for a few seconds and then the error message. It's always error message 0X80072F8F-0X20000. I could never find a way to fix it.

I have tomorrow afternoon off. I'm going to try to upload the windows 10 program to the NC10. Hopefully, it works out.

kwg

Okay, that error usually stems from registry errors or the like.

Download W10 to a thumb drive and boot your computer from the drive. Once it boots from the drive you shouldn't get anything like that. Sorry if that is what you are already doing. It's difficult to know exactly via forum.

About the OP's question - it was easy for me. I turned it on one morning and found that Microsoft had done it for me, want it or not. It never gave me any problems.

KWG, put Zorin Core on that NC10 and let your wife play with it for a while. You'll very soon be a Linux family.

Rock Chuck, that's the whole problem with Microsoft. THEY control your computer; you don't.

If it wasn't for the error message this would all be done. I can't find the fix to the error message after searching google, other than paying for a monthly charge for driver updates. You would think it would be simple but I'm just not finding that fix. My guess is Microsoft wants you to go buy the Windows 10 disc for $139.

Rocky, I wish it were that easy. She can be stubborn and hard headed, especially when it comes to computers. It's the "old dog new trick" thing.

kwg

I know. My wife was the same way. "I don't want to try to learn something all new." But her Windows machine kept futzing up (largely due to her own messing around - but don't let her know that) until I finally convinced her to let me install Mint.

She hardly noticed any difference. Except that Mint just works; no bobbles, no freezeups, no "Windows is updating, do not interrupt" frustrations. She even had no difficulty with using LibreOffice instead of MS Office. All her elaborate tax record spreadsheets imported perfectly, and she has no trouble working with them.

If yours likes W-7, she'll be right at home with Zorin Core, which has much of the same look and feel. Except that it will run faster, cleaner, with no malware danger, and with her in complete control.

I suspect that this problem is some kind of malware holding your computer hostage. MS doesn't charge for updating drivers. If you haven't done it, download and run a couple different anti-virus programs, like Malwarebytes.

I did it 2 years ago on a Dell tower that was about 10 years old. Everything went smooth as far as I can remember. The best advice I can give is to make sure you do a complete system backup onto an external USB hard drive with a way to restore, before you attempt the upgrade. That way you can always go back in case things go south.
But as it has already been stated, the 32 bit may be a stumbling block for you. I don't remember all the min requirements.

I don't think that W10 will run on a 32-bit machine. AFAIK, the only two choices are to run it as-is or convert it to Linux. Conversion is vastly better.

Yes it does. I have it on an old machine running some software that won't run on a 64 bit machine.

Here’s your fix.

Media Creation Tool Error 0x80072F8F – 0x20000 in Windows 7/8

Fix] Media Creation Tool Error 0x80072F8F – 0x20000

To resolve the Media Creation Tool Error 0x80072F8F – 0x20000 error on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers, enable the TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 protocols. Follow these steps to do so:

Method 1: Enable TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 via the registry (Windows 7 & 8)

Make sure your system is fully updated.
Open Notepad.
Copy the following lines into Notepad.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\WinHttp]
"DefaultSecureProtocols"=dword:00000a00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\WinHttp]
"DefaultSecureProtocols"=dword:00000a00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.1\Client]
"DisabledByDefault"=dword:00000000
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.2\Client]
"DisabledByDefault"=dword:00000000
"Enabled"=dword:00000001
Save the file with a .reg extension — e.g., enable_tls.reg
Double-click the enable_tls.reg file to apply the settings into the registry. Click Yes when asked for confirmation.
If you’re using Windows 7, download the KB3140245 package (TLS 1.1/1.2 enablement update) from Microsoft and install it. This step may not be needed for Windows 8.
Restart Windows.
Download registry files: If you wish to download premade registry file(s), download enable-tls.zip. Unzip and run the enclosed file enable_tls.reg. To reverse/undo the setting to Windows 7/8 defaults, run the undo.reg registry file.

Method 2: Easy Fix (for Windows 7 only)

The above registry fix was created incorporating the suggestions in the Microsoft article titled Update to enable TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 as default secure protocols in WinHTTP

The article talks about the Microsoft Update with will enable TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 support via KB3140245 package. Here are the instructions:

Download the KB3140245 package. Don’t run it yet.
Download the “Easy Fix” executable via the above link (direct download) and run it. The fix will create the DefaultSecureProtocols registry value which is a prerequisite for the Microsoft update.
Now run the KB3140245 .msi package you downloaded in Step 1.
This automatically enables TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 on the computer.

Should add if you are running win8.0 you have to upgrade to 8.1 with SP1 installed. Win 8.0 has the wrong architecture so incompatible with 10.

Next caveat, if you are running Win 7or 8 or 8.1 the upgrade has to have come from MS either by Windows update or in Win8’s case the Windows store, which means it was delivered to a licensed copy eligible for upgrade. This in turn gives a permanent license to 10. In 2025 when 10 goes dead the upgrades as outlined above will continue to function as normal, the ones as being done like above will either have to buy a license @139.00 or the software will cease to function 1 year after the final update.


Per Microsoft.

What is this Save the file with a .reg extension — e.g., enable_tls.reg thing you talk of Swifty ??

kwg

Result from a search engine:

Windows 10 can run on both 32-bit and 64-bit processor architectures. If you have a computer with a 32-bit setup, you can upgrade to the 64-bit version without acquiring a new license.

I'm still debating upgrading from XP. Hard pass for me.