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I love dogs.
I've been smitten with the European Doberman breed for a very long time.
I've been around them a lot and never had any fear of them triggering like Pitts do.

They are incredible dogs.



Funny how cropped ears and a docked tail can transform them into something scary...
They go from a dopey hound dog to Satan incarnate in many eyes...it's ridiculous.




That said, nature is one cruel bitch.
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I had a wonderful, protection trained, male (red, docked, and cropped, about 85 lbs) Doberman from 1989 through 2002. He's another dog that I'd pay a lot to get back in his prime.

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pitbulls are the ni&&ers of dog breeds

LOL, by "the natural world" do you mean in the wild? As opposed to in the neighborhood with small children playing in the yard?

LOL I can see it now, 12 year-old mathman riding a 3-speed with a basket on the front, and a short-barreled Remington pump rifle across the handlebars.



I bet the nieghbors tipped hm well at Christmas.

man you sure have a lot going on all the time in your life.....bob

I want one. Too old to be taking up with a canine partner that may outlive me but I want one. Way back in time some friends had Dobies. At one time or another Black&Tan, Red, and Fawn. The Fawn can give you an absolutely penetrating look even when they like you. But then they’re all pretty good at that. Peaceful and friendly as they can be until you step over predetermined bounds.

Went with my friend and his matriarch dog to an evaluation appointment at a training facility. It was quickly determined, by an agitator in protective gear, that Pete had the right stuff. To see a Doberman go after the bad guy full speed then see her obey a cease & desist command and return to the trainer is unique. Highly intelligent, deadly loyal, and absolutely obedient.

Have too much on my plate right now to follow up. But sometime in the next year I’ll make the decision. Black&Tan, Red, or Fawn.

My Doberman was protection trained by three different trainers over his active life. I did his obedience training on my own, resulting in his earning his Companion Dog title before he was a year old. That's actually an extremely high standard of training, despite the casual sounding title.

After that, he had three different protection trainers over about a six year period. One was a police dog trainer, one was a former trainer for Israeli police dogs, and the third was a private trainer of protection dogs.

The police dog trainer told me that my dog's bite was substantially stronger than any of the police German Shepherds he usually worked with.

Any Dog that doesn't hunt, and track I don't need, i've never needed a dog to protect me or mine, my stock dogs and hunting dogs double as protection dogs just fine and they don't bite anyone. Rio7

That's awesome. My Doberman was worthless as a protection dog, prior to training. He just wanted to play with any stranger that came along. Didn't have a mean bone in him.

He was still that way after training, but on command, he'd go into protection mode, which involved a display of aggression (barking and pulling towards the identified target), and he would aggressively grab hold (while in that mode) of the identified target if he entered my space. Anyone who was not an identified target would be treated as a friend by my dog.

They do kill a lot more people than coyotes do.

Bingo.

The nutcase agrees with you guys. Tell you anything?

It is absolutely the breed. For the most part, people who gravitate towards this breed don't help matters either. I can't tell you how many dad stories I've heard where the " family pet, best dog ever just suddenly snapped and mauled someone.

There are far, far better breeds for pets and about every other use. Pits were bred to dog fight. Just like game cocks were bred to cock fight.

kinda weird hobby hawkeye. do you live in a dangerous neighborhood?

So, okay, someone was hittin' the "macho sauce" quite early today. No prob....we've all been there....though maybe not with so much azz on display...


Aww. Pitty owners are so cute and "protective" of their doggies that "never showed signs of aggression....never bit anyone"...until they did. Problem being (when dealing with dogs and humans), once the switch is flipped on a pit breed, it is locked in.

SAY THE LINE DOUCHEBAG! "He / she has never exhibited aggression before!"

Not a dog walking that intimidates me, because I'm always prepared. But I am aware. And part of that awareness is the knowledge that my wife, grandchildren, daughters in law, etc., will not be able to deal with a situation with a land shark the way I could. I can handle a dog. I was raised in a household that bred / raised Siberian huskies. The old man taught us early on how to handle a dog attack. I come up on a pit (or any other dog) gnawing on someone, I won't be beating it with a broomstick. But I'll be making a big old "wish" with its' hind legs. Many ways to deal with a physical confrontation with a dog, but so many are unaware. I know a few, and hitting it with a broom handle is not one of them. Pits are formidable, no doubt, but largely only truly dangerous to babies, little old ladies, and X-gen's in skinny jeans who can't handle their chit. Sorry, but a pit is no match for someone who knows how to take a dog out. Yeah, there will be some stitches, and some pain. But the dead beast laying in a pool of blood at the end of the battle won't fuggin' be me.

If you think breed awareness makes someone a "puzzy", then I suspect you're a "puzzy" for for wanting to go CCW in Philly....

You have great taste in dogs. I love my two Dobermans. (American) Big, loveable goofballs. Until it’s time to get down......