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Brother Fubar;
Top of the morning to you my cyber brother, I trust that other than the political turmoil we're enmired in that all else in your life is more than less fine.

Please help a semi-geezer's memory out here, but even back in the day did Jeep actually ever say the factory bar was anything more than for looks?

In the '80's when the BC pickups all had the "roll bar" in the box they were sold up here as a "light bar" and there was a warning that they didn't help in a roll over.

Anyways, having never been near a Jeep until our eldest bought a one owner XJ I'd only gone hunting in buddy's a couple times. His had that factory bar too if I'm remembering right?

Thanks in advance and all the best.

Dwayne

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Early jeeps did not come with roll bars...
I may be wrong, but best I can remember when AMC bought them out they started installing roll bars and I believe they called them that, and they bolted to the tub.
The AMC Jeep was a tad longer to accommodate the 258 straight six and the 304 V8 that replaced the 4 banger and Buick V6
All our older Jeeps had custom cages and the majority bolted to the tub, race Jeeps being an exception.
I have seen Jeeps roll up to a dozen slow rolls off road and the tub mounted cages worked ok. They were completely destroyed but the occupants survived


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The guy I bought my cj off of special ordered it so not to have the big hood decal kit on it. Golden eagle or something?
He told them he didn’t want the roll bar either and they just left it off! It never had one when I got it.

I wouldn't ride in a Jeep without at least a roll bar, much prefer a cage... seen too many roll
I can’t believe they sold it new to the guy without the roll bar. It must have been a sticker add on and he said he didn’t want to pay for it!
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If you havent rolled a Jeep then you havent driven one much.

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Uncle told of begging his older brother to borrow his CJ5 so him and his buddies could go wheeling. Older brother said Okay but one rule. Straight up and straight down, do NOT attempt to side hill any obstacle. They made it half a mile down the county road before they tried to cut across the ditch at which point the flipped it on it’s side. 🤦‍♂️

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Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Here is my ‘73 cj5. 65,000 on the OD iirc. I’m second owner. It’s been setting here in the dry for going on 30+ yrs now, or close to it.
These are the bars I built for it.
The inside bar is 2" x3/16 sg tubing. Miter cut, beveled and welded. I have hand sketches of an 1 1/4 sg tubing three bar set up that I plan on replacing it with at some point. If I do I’ll make a detachable light bar that mounts to the top of it for when the rag top is off.
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The front bumper is a three piece deal. The main bumper is 5" x 3/16 broke channel with 1 1/4 x 3/16 sg railing. The idea is to keep the radiator and engine compartment from being completely crushed if does roll over. The grill guard and light bar are separate pieces. Might do the them in aluminum at some point.
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The rocker panels and rear bars are all out of 1 1/4 x 3/16 sg. The rockers are topped with aluminum tread plate.
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The 73 was one of the final years that actually had a tail gate. And one of the first years with the 304 I believe.
The rear tire carrier holds a Gerry can on each side of the tire and hinges from either side to drop the tail gate. To much schit’n the way to get pic of it.

I’m about getting in the mind set to start a restoration on it.(old age project) I want to build a flip up/forward front clip that will carry the hood fenders bumper and all with it.. a hillbilly’s e-type jag look!1 HA! <G>

Get to going on it....
Here are two threads to spur you on.

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Originally Posted by tndrbstr
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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Weld it. Otherwise they're just for looks and don't help in a rollover.

This is not true.... I was in a Jeep with a bolted in rollcage when we rolled three times , hard and fast on pavement, no slow roll. The jeep was totaled and we walked away sore but unhurt.

Either Or,.. for serious schitt they really need to be tied into the frame on way or another. Even with a backing plate the fender metal is probably still just around 20ga or less.

Obviously they should be frame mounted if possible...
I was simply disputing the "absolute" statement by STRSWilson..... experience trumps speculation, always
As far as I know, back in the day, factory roll bars were never welded OR mounted to the frame.

There were not factory roll bars until the late 70's, prior to that they were dealer options.


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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by BC30cal
Brother Fubar;
Top of the morning to you my cyber brother, I trust that other than the political turmoil we're enmired in that all else in your life is more than less fine.

Please help a semi-geezer's memory out here, but even back in the day did Jeep actually ever say the factory bar was anything more than for looks?

In the '80's when the BC pickups all had the "roll bar" in the box they were sold up here as a "light bar" and there was a warning that they didn't help in a roll over.

Anyways, having never been near a Jeep until our eldest bought a one owner XJ I'd only gone hunting in buddy's a couple times. His had that factory bar too if I'm remembering right?

Thanks in advance and all the best.

Dwayne

My cyber brother from the land of Canucks... smile

Early jeeps did not come with roll bars...
I may be wrong, but best I can remember when AMC bought them out they started installing roll bars and I believe they called them that, and they bolted to the tub.
The AMC Jeep was a tad longer to accommodate the 258 straight six and the 304 V8 that replaced the 4 banger and Buick V6
All our older Jeeps had custom cages and the majority bolted to the tub, race Jeeps being an exception.
I have seen Jeeps roll up to a dozen slow rolls off road and the tub mounted cages worked ok. They were completely destroyed but the occupants survived

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Never rolled a Jeep yet and I learned to drive in one. But I haven't been so lucky with a Samurai, rolled it twice so far and it felt like slow motion both times.


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Thats a good'un. No shame in the DTs.


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Originally Posted by hillestadj
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Thats a good'un. No shame in the DTs.


Happy Birthday
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Hand held camera.

No schidt? Fooled me.


Hold it a little firmer next time.

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Wabi,
You will not need a roll bar... just say a prayer each time before you motor off into the sunset.... wink


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Thats a good'un. No shame in the DTs.


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You fugger!

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