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I think you are the first guy on 24hourCampfire that has ever admitted that it was him and not the rifle. Good on you, easy to fix (and fun) - just shoot more.

He held the left leg of the bipod firmly! That would most certainly produce a hit to the right of point of aim likely by a noticeable margin. It was not the tripod that made the shot miss point of aim, it was how the tripod was used. Everything must remain nuetral

Edited to say I should have read all the comments first. This has already been stated I guess this is just a reconfirm


Trystan

I can't imagine it would shift that far
Maybe just the wrong load or something

Turns out to be shooter error!

That happens!!

In my experience and observations a great many, if not most, things blamed on guns, loads, scopes, etc are most often shooter error, but human nature being such as it is very few folks will admit they were the cause.

drover

Was the deer moving at all? I once shot a bear at 97 yards while he was walking profile left to right - with a 300gr NP moving at 2,750 out the muzzle. I hit both lungs and he dropped instantly, but the bullet hit about 8 inches to the left of where I was aiming.

I did the math. The bullet took 0.113 second to get to the bear (per ballistics calculator).
8” = 0.667 ft.
0.667 ft / 0.113 sec. = 5.9 ft/s = 4.0 mph.

So, the bear walking just 4 mph (which seems about right) would travel 8” before the bullet struck him at 100 yards.

I shot a pronghorn years ago that was walking, about 250 yards, was shooting a 240 Wby, hit him a bit back but still a clean kill...learned my lesson about walking game, especially as the distance increases.

The target was a large male rottweiler harrassing my livestock.
Rifle was a Win 70 classic in 264, loaded with a Nosler 100 gr bt at 3200 fps.

Distance, right at 200 yds. The dog thought he was in tbe clear and had come out of cover. He was trotting L to R.

I was prone on the bipod. I put the crosshair right on the point of his nose and touched the trigger.

The bullet hit well behind his ears, solidly in his neck for an instant kill.

No, I don't even try to shoot running game.

If there is any discernable recoil , if one leg is free to move and the other catches a bit it may shift impact. Think about shooting off a tailgate. If one leg catches a ridge and the other does not, the result will not be a spendid shoot , same with a window frame.

A bipod is harder to control. This is especially true off the bench. Any torque introduced by the shooter or the rifle under recoil will cause the rifle to move off alignment. Another example would be extending a leg and holding it when standing or kneeling. Practice is important with bipods. (Even if you are firing an automatic weapon. )

Because there are two legs, you have to apply equal pressure on both. When firing off the ground, "trenching" a bipod is suggested in the field when shooting rifles. Getting both legs into the ground and applying a little forward pressure helps tremendously. You want to restrict the movement of the legs while under recoil.

When firing off a bench, the easiest and cheapest way to achieve this is with a bag of sand. Benches are hard and the rifle will hop under recoil. To minimize this, you need to apply forward pressure onto the bipod to get the legs pressing into the sandbag. This reduces the "jump".

You might also wish to avoid any tall bipods. The higher off the dirt you get with a bipod makes it considerably less stable and almost impossible to control for accurate fire.

Bull fu cking schidt. If there was a 1 foot POI shift it was SHOOTER ERROR. Pretty easy to figure out. If you guys are getting POI shift when you use your bi pods, you rifles are a POS and need some work. Also you shooting skills suck donkey balls. Sorry, but the truth hurts sometimes..

That there about sums it up^^^^

Some of you guys have no clue. You need to get out there and shoot more. Then you may actually figure schidt out.. If you are getting POI shifts, your mechanical system is flawed. Fix that and shoot again. If you are still getting POI shift, you are doing something wrong. Very easy to figure this out. Regards..

That is shooter error. You guys need more practice. You damn sure don't know how to shoot or give advice.. You learn how to shoot and it will be like a lightbulb going off. Some guys will never get it though. Then some of you (I mean most of you) get buck fever so bad, you don't even know what is going on. I guarantee it.