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My son's employer (forest management) is a fleet buyer. They gave up on diesels long ago, just didn't pencil out. Since they went gas, they have tried Dodge, GMC, and now Ford. None seems better than another, so far. Dodges ate cams and lifters after warranty. GMC's transmission failures after warranty, Fords are just now getting up past warranty and it's not looking good. Every truck has had automatic 4x4 hub failure (warranty), broken windshields from ill fitting body panels (warranty denied), multiple wiring harness connector failures, cab leaks, excessive tire wear (warranty denied). Company policy has evolved to try to roll the fleet over at 200,000. They put on a lot of miles in a year. I'm not pushing any brand of pickup here, just passing it on. Word is company is regretting providing pickups, used to be employee supplied pickup and was reimbursed mileage, but the workmen's insurance carrier said don't do that for legal reasons.

The new Chevy 2500’s went from a 6L90 to the new ‘Allison’ 10 speed, same as the diesel. I would assume a transmission they put behind a diesel would hold up well behind the gasser.

got a little work outta her today....

Those are gonna be a bïtch to unroll.

23 year old me bought a new 93 Dodge just because I wanted it.
$1/gal diesel and 20mpg, it penciled out well against most full size
trucks then. No contest against a big block.

Still have it.



30 years later.

Diesel is more expensive than gas, EPA has ruined the mpg, DEF,
The lack of reliability, initial expense.......

The performance of modern gas engines.


One would have to be an idiot to buy a diesel today unless really heavy
pulling at grade was frequent.

And how do you like the gas engine? I really mine so far.

Only 250 miles so far, and no trailer time. But so far I'm liking the motor fine. Other little things about the truck really suck, tho....

What don’t you like? Just curious

The dash is curved and the 'tray' area too small to accommodate a rifle scope, not conducive to tossing a rifle on, as it wants to bounce and slide all over the place. The frigging mirrors are too high and hard to fold, to use as a rifle rest. No fugging reason they couldn't have set them 4-5 inches lower, as it would allow a smaller/safer blindspot and you could see over them. I can live with the pushbutton 4WD, but a stupid electric pushbutton E-brake? Give me a pedal to stomp, or a lever to pull... Radio's without knobs? WTF?

P.S., I'm still missing my dimmer switches on the floor....grin

And the hood is too high. Hard to see over.....

I also hate all the electronic e-brakes. On the F150 and Camry we own. The Camry activates when you put it in Park.

Another thing I've found that I absolutely hate about these trucks is, the fugking headrests slope forward. They are not removeable OR reverseable. Can't wear a cowboy hat in them. Screw chevy.....

On a side note, I did get the truck steps on, and grab handles on the headache rack. Big Sky overhead rifle rack will go on as soon as it gets here and the roofmount spotlight whenever I get it off the old truck and get a warm day.

The head rest is removable, at least in mine I can. Mines a LT model. It is a pain to wear a cowboy hat in them I agree.

yours must not be a 2022 with vinyl seats.....

It’s a 2022 with cloth….

So your head rest isn’t adjustable at all?

Yeah. It goes up and down. Cannot be flipped or removed.

They are removable (and probably can be flipped as well).

I bet they can be removed. Push the button to move them up and down and on the other post there will be another button that’s flush with the plastic piece the headrest goes into. Blends in well. Push both and pull it out.

Thanks. I'll try that tomorrow. Was just going by what it said in the manual....