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Ya, that and them psychotically evil Brits burning civilians alive and whatnot. I mean sure some people across The Pond were doing all that but they was all Irish 🙂

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Yeah the only instance back then of folks being lit up to my knowledge is the Gnadenhuten massacre. When the Pennsylvania militia burned up all those Moravian Indian wimmens and chilluns in their church. Knocked all the men in the head while they prayed, with a cooper’s mallet in their council house.

But I digress.

Two inventions that doomed the South; the cotton gin and the steam engine. The gin for making cotton a commercially-viable crop, and the steam engine for powering those English textile mills. The two acting in concert to make slave-grown cotton such a viable concern across the South.

The best part of this Emancipation movie is the depiction of the process of ginning cotton with hand labor, with a really cool looks like a working cotton gin. I’ve never seen that in a movie before.

No they were not bought to be tortured but the end result of taking feral tribesmen out of the jungle, and forcing them into labor, was feral tribesmen being beat to schit fairly often.

This was also not unique to the United States. Rather it had been going on for centuries. And still is today.

Rwanda. Hutus and tutsis.

Slaves heads impaled in sticks? A pit full of bodies?

So to be historically accurate, when in the movie are the railroad overseers arrested for murder?

There were a lot of laws in the USA (and CSA) about treatment of slaves. It’s been ignored in history books, and I’m sure enforcement was hit or miss according the local sheriff’s point of view. But in most if not every, states, intentional killing was not legally justified for apprehending an escaped slave.

Most slaves who managed to escape from their owner’s property were apprehended and returned fairly quickly. Besides, killing him for running kind of defeated the purpose of owning him in the first place. Since an owner knew the vast majority who left would be returned, why destroy one’s own property?

I don't need to watch it. It will be, "Negro good, whitey bad."

Supposedly this poor nig-ro was brought over from Haiti. Ironic they show how bad he had it in RACIST USA.
Just think he could have stayed in Haiti, and his descendants would live under the most oppressive and poor country, with the worst medical care in the Western Hemisphere, a country, Haiti, run by nig-ros since 1796.

Especially if he's playing an Haitian. They have been "white-free" since 1810 -after they slaughtered the French-, and all they have accomplished is Zombies stories...

Crazy James Vann, Cherokee Chief, did famously burn a slave at the stake for stealing, I wanna say 1820’s or 1830’s, but then as one of the wealthiest men in North America at that time he could afford that extravagance.

Meanwhile them famously violent Paxton Boys, a bunch of Scots-Irish Prods who perpetrated that infamous Gnadenhuten Massacre by hand had just previously taken out a bunch of refugee Conestogas.

In their defense though, Author Alan W. Ekhert had it that the Miami (??) raiders they were chasing had abducted the fiancé of a young Paxton man and, being closely pursued had left the naked body of the young woman scalped and grotesquely impaled upright on a sapling for the Paxton Boys to find, said impalement before or after death unclear.

One of the perpetrators then giving her dress to the impoverished Moravian Indians, that dress sealing their doom.

Found it. The Scullabogue Barn Massacre, 100+ men, women and children torched in a barn. 1798.

Durn it, I had heard that this was Catholics burning Protestants and it mostly was, but there were Catholics and Prods on both sides of those barn doors. It was Rebels burning Loyalists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scullabogue_Barn_massacre

Thanks Birdy. I did not know about that one!!!

What I want know if why does history always gotta be so complicated 🙂

It shouldn’t be. Just history given with context. It always turns into hidden agendas and distorted context.

It hasn’t been just them, South Carolina, the first State to secede in 1860 said is was also. Heck, Missippi said it was all about slavery, but then in South Carolina and Mississippi both there were more slaves than their were free people. A couple of other seceding Confederate States said it too...

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

And then there’s that infamous “Cornerstone” speech where the Confederate Veep Stephens who said in 1861 that slavery was “the immediate cause of secession”. No surprise really, most wars are ultimate about money and slave-grown cotton was like 80% of Southern exports.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornerstone-speech


If nothing else Lincoln was a brilliant Politician. We know how that war turned out. At the time the eventual outcome was very much in doubt up until the very end.

November of ‘64, Lincoln actually believed he was gonna get beat by the Democrat McClellan, and indeed if McClellan had won his platform was he was gonna cease hostilities and negotiate a settlement. At the very least this would buy the South some time and might well have resulted in some degree of Southern autonomy.

1862 the big fear was England would recognize the Confederacy as a divided US woulda been to her advantage. Queen Victoria however was an avowed Abolitionist.

The Emancipation Proclamation was an attempt to make the war “about slavery” on the International scene, when Lincoln had always stated, as did the vast majority of the Union rank and file, that for him the war was about preserving the Union.

The reason the EP took so long was that Lincoln had to wait until the North looked like they could win, that event was the Battle of Antietam, September of 1862. It worked. Why didn’t that include Maryland and other Border States? Politics, Lincoln could not risk fracturing what was left of the Union even further.

How did Lincoln really feel about slavery? For that you gotta look his masterwork, the 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery everywhere, not just in the South but in the Border States also.

Political maneuvering to get that Amendment passed over considerable opposition occupied much of the last year of his life. Lincoln would not live to see his 13th Amendment passed into law.

The great author Leo Tolstoy once wrote, "History would be a wonderful thing ... if it were only true."

L.W.

On another note, headed to Chalmette 6 January with the fellas. Join up with Old Hickory and the 7th US Inf.

Haven’t been since 2007! Should be interesting

On the home front, due to a change of schedule, I may finally be able to make it next year to the December trade fair at Goliad where you scored that cool pistol.

I think I have something better to do during that time frame.

One of my GG granddaddy’s was a slave owner the slaves freed kept the last name I always wondered as a child why until somebody told me.