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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition."
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New rifle last minute hunt and no time to handload so 150 gr Federal blue box it was. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qkM3oRG.jpg) Can't knock the easy button. Funny, "easy button" is how I described the 308 to a co-worker when he asked what he should get for deer hunting. I have a decent array of big game rifles from 243-375 and really like my boring 308 and 30-06. They just kill stuff, no fluf, no BS and no drama with good old fashioned "soft points".
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I’ve shot deer with a bunch of bullets out of my 308…. Never noticed anything working any better than regular old 150 Hornady spire points. I did try some 130TTSX’s in the last few years…. They were pretty impressive but the deer were just as dead from the cheap hornady bullets. I lost count of how many does (and a few bucks) that the 150 Interlock has killed. I load them to over 2900 in my RAR and they shoot around 1/2-moa out to 300-when I can shoot that well, which is less often anymore. They are deadly on deer and I have never felt the need to go heavier. The 165 is great, too. I will NEVER shoot another SST. At 2500 fps, I had them blow up on small white-tailed does. Some say that the newer ones are better, but why try, when there are great Interlocks and ELD bullets to shoot?
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I’ve shot deer with a bunch of bullets out of my 308…. Never noticed anything working any better than regular old 150 Hornady spire points. I did try some 130TTSX’s in the last few years…. They were pretty impressive but the deer were just as dead from the cheap hornady bullets. I lost count of how many does (and a few bucks) that the 150 Interlock has killed. I load them to over 2900 in my RAR and they shoot around 1/2-moa out to 300-when I can shoot that well, which is less often anymore. They are deadly on deer and I have never felt the need to go heavier. The 165 is great, too. I will NEVER shoot another SST. At 2500 fps, I had them blow up on small white-tailed does. Some say that the newer ones are better, but why try, when there are great Interlocks and ELD bullets to shoot? Was that a good while back? A number of years ago I used the 165 SST in full steam loads for a buddy's 308. My old Oehler 33 showed them doing about 2740 fps IIRC. He didn't have any blow up problems. This was over ten years ago, maybe closer to fifteen.
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." Where’d he come from Brad? Do you hunt MT whitetails much?
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Always used 165 gr Game Kings. But ordered some Norma 139 Evo Strikes because they were available. They are kind of an alloy Partition. Very accurate in all my 308s and great on whitetail deer
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." Where’d he come from Brad? Do you hunt MT whitetails much? Scott, many decades ago I went to university in St. Louis MO. I shot that buck out in the far flung Western edge of St. Louis County, a place with great whitetail genetics. I saw more than one genuine B&C book buck there, including one that was genuinely over 200." Of course, I tried to get permission on that property, but the answer was a resounding "no." But yes, occasionally I shoot a MT whitetail. Last one was four years ago: ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/4yhmV15h/DSC02668.jpg)
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." Where’d he come from Brad? Do you hunt MT whitetails much? Scott, many decades ago I went to university in St. Louis MO. I shot that buck out in the far flung Western edge of St. Louis County, a place with great whitetail genetics. I saw more than one genuine B&C book buck there, including one that was genuinely over 200." Of course, I tried to get permission on that property, but the answer was a resounding "no." But yes, occasionally I shoot a MT whitetail. Last one was four years ago: Great buck. I’ve been sorta debating on doing WT in MT and man, you all have some nice bucks. Maybe not Alberta tanks but nice nonetheless. Plus, you can’t beat the country and I’d bet packing a WT is a whole lot more fun than an elk. Neat buck and a neat story as well about the college buck.
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Have used Core-Lokt’s, Ballistic Tips & Accubonds in my 308’s. They all performed admirably.
I am currently using 155 Scenar’s & don’t see that changing. They have been bang-flops every time.
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." Where’d he come from Brad? Do you hunt MT whitetails much? Scott, many decades ago I went to university in St. Louis MO. I shot that buck out in the far flung Western edge of St. Louis County, a place with great whitetail genetics. I saw more than one genuine B&C book buck there, including one that was genuinely over 200." Of course, I tried to get permission on that property, but the answer was a resounding "no." But yes, occasionally I shoot a MT whitetail. Last one was four years ago: Heck yes! Nice buck brad!
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Your Every Liberal vote promotes Socialism and is an
attack on the Second Amendment. You will suffer the consequences.
GOA,Idaho2AIAlliance,AmericanFirearmsAssociation,IdahoTrappersAssociation,FoundationForWildlifeManagement ID and MT.
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." I totally believe that Brad. Personally never met a flat base that didn't group. Funny as i'm watching my kid live old school as he hammers Big bucks and bid bulls with a 130gr Interlock... Lol Last two seasons, 462yds 408yds 420yds 373yds.. haha
Your Every Liberal vote promotes Socialism and is an
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beretzs and Shag, he's a fairly young deer and I probably shouldn't have shot him, but some how my rifle came up, went off, and the deer dropped lol!
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." I totally believe that Brad. Personally never met a flat base that didn't group. Funny as i'm watching my kid live old school as he hammers Big bucks and bid bulls with a 130gr Interlock... Lol Last two seasons, 462yds 408yds 420yds 373yds.. haha This stuff really isn't that hard is it Shag!
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Great buck. I’ve been sorta debating on doing WT in MT and man, you all have some nice bucks. Maybe not Alberta tanks but nice nonetheless. Plus, you can’t beat the country and I’d bet packing a WT is a whole lot more fun than an elk. Neat buck and a neat story as well about the college buck. Were I wanting to have a great whitetail experience, I'd head up to the NW part of the state and track a buck big woods style.
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Great buck. I’ve been sorta debating on doing WT in MT and man, you all have some nice bucks. Maybe not Alberta tanks but nice nonetheless. Plus, you can’t beat the country and I’d bet packing a WT is a whole lot more fun than an elk. Neat buck and a neat story as well about the college buck. Were I wanting to have a great whitetail experience, I'd head up to the NW part of the state and track a buck big woods style. That sounds like a good hunt to me. That’s some nice country up there.
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That is a neat buck. My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." Where’d he come from Brad? Do you hunt MT whitetails much? Scott, many decades ago I went to university in St. Louis MO. I shot that buck out in the far flung Western edge of St. Louis County, a place with great whitetail genetics. I saw more than one genuine B&C book buck there, including one that was genuinely over 200." Of course, I tried to get permission on that property, but the answer was a resounding "no." But yes, occasionally I shoot a MT whitetail. Last one was four years ago:
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I'm quite partial to 130gr Barnes TTSX over 3031 but its available as a factory load too.
My first "deer rifle" was an M1 Garand though, and I'd load a pretty much 308 velocity load of a 150gr hot cor. Honestly never saw anything that needed improving from that load.
One time I went moose hunting and wouldn't you know, couldn't find my fancy ammo. Used some Garand handloads of a 165gr SST at a very sedate speed to take it easy on the old rifle. Guess what? Knocked the fight out of a young bull fast.
Wasn't too explosive on deer either.
The last thing I was shooting the 130gr TTSX over 3031 load out of was an M1 with a brand new Criterion barrel and it stacks them. They work well on deer too. I was using the starting charge of 41.6gr but this is in 7.62x51mm NATO brass so likely counted for a few grains heavier. Weatherby Vanguard S2 shot them well also.
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My favorite whitetail bullet in the 308 was always the 150 Speer Hotcore. Used that combo to take my largest many years ago, an old 4x4 that dressed out over 200 lbs. Bullet was a complete pass thru. I call the Hotcore, "the poor man's partition." Speer was on a path to making great bullets from about 1985-1998ish. I was shooting the 308 Grand Slam & loved it. Then, they decided to change the upper & lower lead pour formula and ruined it. Wasn’t too long beyond that they just kind of disappeared. Made a Texas Heart Shot on a Coyote & it literally turned him inside out up to his neck.
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