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Spoke with Steve from Hammer 2 days ago to get some load data for my 28 Nosler. He was very helpful and knowledgeable. I had been shooting Berger 195 EOL and am not happy with terminal performance of the Berger so had planned on ordering some 177HH. Steve asked how far I planned to shoot and I told him it's a hunting rifle and 500 yds would be long for me . He suggested the 143HH for that range and hooked me up with data for N570 and I should get 3500-3600fps with that bullet. He also told me if I wasn't happy with them send them back and he'd refund or swap them out. I spoke with him Tuesday afternoon and they were in my mailbox this morning!

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Those 143's at 3600 sound like BAD medicine DVD!

Let me know how they work out.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Those 143's at 3600 sound like BAD medicine DVD!

Let me know how they work out.

Will do


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I'll call it good to go load development over. Loaded up a few rounds to give the 143 HH a runner out of my 28 Nosler. 91 grs N570 Fed 215M primer rolling at 3540 fps
That'll work!
I am taking it to West Texas for Aoudad end of Feb

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Damn! Need to give them a whirl in my Mashburn

Looking forward to seeing how they work for you.


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That will work for everything


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I am taking it to West Texas for Aoudad end of Feb

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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I'll call it good to go load development over. Loaded up a few rounds to give the 143 HH a runner out of my 28 Nosler. 91 grs N570 Fed 215M primer rolling at 3540 fps
That'll work!
I am taking it to West Texas for Aoudad end of Feb

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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I'll call it good to go load development over. Loaded up a few rounds to give the 143 HH a runner out of my 28 Nosler. 91 grs N570 Fed 215M primer rolling at 3540 fps
That'll work!
I am taking it to West Texas for Aoudad end of Feb

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Just found out they make .312's ! Ordering some tomorrow for my Ruger single shot!
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Anyone run the .358" 178gr Shock Hammer??


358 TTSX have been unobtainable for a long while as far as I've seen so I ordered the 178gr shock hammers to run in both my 358 Winchesters.


Maybe do some load testing this week in my Kimber... Anxious to see how they perform but will have to wait till at least next season....

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I haven’t gotten to use a Hammer on fur yet but man they’ve been very accurate and easy to make loads for.

I have a Kimber 338 Fed I’d like to give them a shot in myself.

I’d think the 358 with the 178’s would be a buck snow plow.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
I haven’t gotten to use a Hammer on fur yet but man they’ve been very accurate and easy to make loads for.

I have a Kimber 338 Fed I’d like to give them a shot in myself.

I’d think the 358 with the 178’s would be a buck snow plow.
Yeah, that combo with RL-7 or X-term is a winner.

Here's a link to my .358 Win. Pre-64 FWT JES re-bore project rifle and the carnage from a WT killed with the 178 Shock Hammer over RL-7.

338 Fed shouldn't be that different.

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Thanx dirtfarmer! Pretty wild that the petals exited like that.


I was on the fence about the idea of petals sheering off...seems like they got them pretty dialed in though.


I'll probably start with TAC as I have 2 kegs of it.

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Originally Posted by Mauser06
Thanx dirtfarmer! Pretty wild that the petals exited like that.


I was on the fence about the idea of petals sheering off...seems like they got them pretty dialed in though.


I'll probably start with TAC as I have 2 kegs of it.
Yeah, people criticize Barnes bullets losing a petal, whereas Hammer and CEB monos are designed to shed petals.

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Deer shot somewhere between 185 and 200 yards with the 222 grain Hammer Hunter from my 35 Whelen, 1885 Highwall 28" barrel doing 2911 FPS at 15 feet form chronograph

Those petals certainly add to the damage


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Seems it may be somewhat of an art, fine tuning loads with bullet type and velocity. Some Hammers can be pretty expansive. Googling “Types of Hammer bullets” will give details.

Your load combo was evidently pretty expansive and seems bone was affected. Even Barnes can be pretty expansive at high velocity.

Some years ago, I shot a WT with an 80 gr TTSX at 3,600 fps out of my .240 Wby. Huge blast effect on the chest wall, a not so impressive pass thru the chest cavity.

Speed kills, but matching bullet type with speed seems more important to me now than earlier.

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This is the exit side. The 404 grain SH in 458 at 2500ish FPS is a devastating bullet on every Gunner500 used it on in Africa including Cape Buffalo. One shot and done the petal did a lot of internal damage on the Buffalo plus exited through the shoulders



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Deer shot somewhere between 185 and 200 yards with the 222 grain Hammer Hunter from my 35 Whelen, 1885 Highwall 28" barrel doing 2911 FPS at 15 feet form chronograph

Those petals certainly add to the damage


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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Thanx dirtfarmer! Pretty wild that the petals exited like that.


I was on the fence about the idea of petals sheering off...seems like they got them pretty dialed in though.


I'll probably start with TAC as I have 2 kegs of it.
Yeah, people criticize Barnes bullets losing a petal, whereas Hammer and CEB monos are designed to shed petals.

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I have maybe a half dozen recovered Barnes bullets without petals from cape buffalo (350's via 416 Rem), two kudu (250's via 9.3x62 with one shot), bushbuck (250's via 9.3x62 azz shot), elk (185's via 338-06), moose (225 via 35 Whelen). Short of the buffalo that took two steps the rest dropped at the shot. No criticism here.


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