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Where do you draw the line between SPAM and Lobster? Twinkies vs/ grapes or bananas?

How about Cholesterol meds vs. Viagra?

Our tax system is a complete 180 from where it should be. Your greatest tax burden SHOULD be to your municipality/township, then county, then state, then Federal. Think of how much more accountable politicians would be if your biggest $$ amount each month was being managed by the person you see at church, in the grocery store, etc, etc, etc.

Nothing the gooberment is Clean or Easy.
They screw everything up that they touch.

I do not mean to muddy the waters but think about this.

If we have a flat tax (what ever the Rate) with no exclusions.

A Company , Business and or Corporation when they purchase anything whould pay the flat tax and then just add it on to the next guy.

The next Guy (not the end Guy) purchase the Item from a Business that just added the flat tax and tey pay the flat tax and add something to what they purchased from the Business before them and they add the flat tax they paid onto the product the next Guy does the same thing pays the flat tax and passes that onto the next guy.

By the time some products get the the last guy that has to pay the end all flat tax that tax has been inflated how much 30% , 40% , maybe 100+% who knows what it would be. It would depend on how many hands a product or even a Service had went threw.

I do not like the IRS but I do not see them being dismantled 100%.

A flat tax could and should shrink the IRS to a manageable size unlike what we have today with all of the run away agency's.

Who said anything about taxing goods meant for production?
Or any Corporate tax at all.

Corporate taxes are the most stupid thing this country has ever done.

If a corporation makes profits, that money is distributed as dividends. Those dollars should only be taxed as they are spent for consumer goods.

With a monthly rebate to everyone to offset buying necessities.
So that the poorest weren't weren't unnecessarily harmed.

The original was around 28%.
Not as bad as it sounds considering SS was rolled into it.
And only money spent was taxed.

So every dollar not spent was like a 401k.
Tax free, to earn more tax free dollars. Until spent.

It has 0 chance of passing.

No IRS.
No tax preparation industry.
Severely decreased need for CPAs.
Same for tax attorneys.
These people aren't going to give up their gravy train without out a fight.

It'll never happen. What will all those IRS agents do them.

The IRS will never go away but it can be radically trimmed.

A tax on investments? An investment is just a number in a computer. It's worthless until it's cashed in and spent. Tax the spending. If the investor wants to buy a 12' fishing boat, he can pay tax on that. If he wants a 30'er with 4 250hp motors, he can pay a lot more tax on that. No matter what he buys, he'll pay the tax when he spends the investment.

Brings up another tax issue.
Bond issues should be funded by a sales tax - instead of a property tax!
Renters, leasors, and "little Bobby, living in his parents basement" have no skin in the game. Therefore should have NO say!
Bond issues are taxation without ADEQUATE representation!

This is EXACTLY what we suffer in our state.
Politicians are govt approved thieves, who think they are Robin Hood (take from the rich & give to the poor)
The cumulative tax rate is astronomical - unless you're "poor".
Therefore NO incentive to work. 56% of our population work, the rest are supported by the workers.

I'll be damned! I actually agree with you on something.

Government doesn’t need more money , they need less spending and less money.

A fair tax would be something like everybody in the United States send in like $5000 a year. No exemptions; no exclusions.

Haven’t read all the replies or specifics on the bill.
But I’d be happy to pay one flat rate sales tax. Let’s say 15%?
But! no more federal, State, property or any kind of tax.
People get their full pay checks. Everyone would be so much better off and the $ would go right back into the economy as Americans love to buy and spend.
This would also solve the illegals and side hustle or drug money. Simply no way getting around as everyone pays the same tax on all items purchased.

Renters don't pay real estate taxes?

One thing to consider is it will only be on new items, as least thats how I understood it when this was floated some 10 - 15 years ago. With that said, a person would have some control on how much tax they pay, buy used and fix thongs3, if one has to have new, pay the tax.

I would support it and hopefully downsize the IRS.

Also anyone making money on the blackmarket and buying new things will be taxed.

Apologies if this has been covered, haven't read it all yet.

This idea presents a real problem for disabled veterans. Currently their meager compensation is not taxable. A tax that high on top of local taxes would be devastating.

Pipe Dream...

I hate property tax. You're always renting from the government. I paid sales tax on all the materials to built just tax the labor too once and call it good. The problem is they'll just keep taxing everything else too.

Bb

I like the idea of a sales tax and believe both income and property taxes are criminal.