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Spoke with the Treasurer of my local county to confirm...
.GOV pays no taxes
They use our local roads, water, sewer, schools et al...
Most .GOV operates as a Buisness.
USCG here has barracks for their employees... The employees use our local roads, water, sewer, schools et al...
The National Park Service charges a fee to visit... That is a business for sure.
They occupy local land of extremely high value and pay zero for it... while the rest of us... Business or Private... are saddled with EVER INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Sure, but they'll just raise taxes to do it. So, no.
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They're already stealing your money at gun point. If they have to pay, they'll just steal more.
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Sure, but they'll just raise taxes to do it. So, no. Raise Federal taxes on all... BUT city residents (where most people live) will pay the most... THEN reimburses counties with Public Land (rural)... kinda thing.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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They're already stealing your money at gun point. If they have to pay, they'll just steal more. If Yellowstone paid real and honest taxes for the acres they own... Wyoming and Montana residents would pay far less Real Estate tax and have MUCH MUCH better roads, sewer, water, schools et al
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Sure, but they'll just raise taxes to do it. So, no. Or just cut out federal grants for infrastructure and let the counties fix their own bridges and roads off the tax dollars the local municipalities collect from them.
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Do the benefits to the local economy of a military base or a park that draws as many visitors as Yellowstone outweigh the burden of maintaining roads and other infrastructure?
Would the local economy. be better off without them?
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Do the benefits to the local economy of a military base or a park that draws as many visitors as Yellowstone outweigh the burden of maintaining roads and other infrastructure?
Would the local economy. be better off without them? That is not the point at all... National Parks are NOT going away... neither are DOD bases... if they did... the home builders would gobble up the land instantly... AND PAY REAL ESTATE TAXES. Uncle Sugar is the richest entity in America and he pays zero taxes to locals. We need to stop settling for breadcrumbs... "My Dream Catcher Business makes money because it is next to Grand Teton"
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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NO ONE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM PAYING TAXES...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Spoke with the Treasurer of my local county to confirm...
.GOV pays no taxes
They use our local roads, water, sewer, schools et al...
Most .GOV operates as a Buisness.
USCG here has barracks for their employees... The employees use our local roads, water, sewer, schools et al...
The National Park Service charges a fee to visit... That is a business for sure.
They occupy local land of extremely high value and pay zero for it... while the rest of us... Business or Private... are saddled with EVER INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES.
What if Jessie's girl is Stacy's mom, and her phone number is 867-5309
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Sure, but they'll just raise taxes to do it. So, no. Exactly, the govs money comes out of our pockets. And in doing so, lots of that money evaporates before it’s used or is re distributed.
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Do the benefits to the local economy of a military base or a park that draws as many visitors as Yellowstone outweigh the burden of maintaining roads and other infrastructure?
Would the local economy. be better off without them? That is not the point at all... National Parks are NOT going away... neither are DOD bases... You don't think any DOD bases have closed in our lifetime? Many have, and in every case local and state governments, senators and congressmen fought closures in their locations tooth and nail because of the economic benefits of having them. Your dream catcher business, or restaurant, or grocery store or job only exists because Grand Teton is there.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Spoke with the Treasurer of my local county to confirm...
.GOV pays no taxes
They use our local roads, water, sewer, schools et al...
Most .GOV operates as a Buisness.
USCG here has barracks for their employees... The employees use our local roads, water, sewer, schools et al...
The National Park Service charges a fee to visit... That is a business for sure.
They occupy local land of extremely high value and pay zero for it... while the rest of us... Business or Private... are saddled with EVER INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES. Woot... Woot... " PILT payments totaling $549.4 million" 52,110,996.53 acres in National Parks... That comes out to $0.11 per acre... A 100 acre spread in Colorado pays more or less than $11 a year? Anyone help me out here? 1,000 acre spread would be only $110?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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You get the government you vote for.
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You don't seem to understand that every federal dollar comes from a taxpayer or goes on the deficit.
Raising taxes is not the answer. Ever.
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You don't seem to understand that every federal dollar comes from a taxpayer or goes on the deficit.
Raising taxes is not the answer. Ever. Transfer of money from city to rural is my point... Blue to Red...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Jesus Christ people. Here is the link for PILT (Payment in Lieu of Taxes) that the Federal goverment pays out. On this link you can search by state/fiscal year etc, to see how much in payments they've made. https://pilt.doi.gov/counties.cfm
What if Jessie's girl is Stacy's mom, and her phone number is 867-5309
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You don't seem to understand that every federal dollar comes from a taxpayer or goes on the deficit.
Raising taxes is not the answer. Ever. Transfer of money from city to rural is my point... Blue to Red... CLICK THE F'KING link https://pilt.doi.gov/counties.cfm
What if Jessie's girl is Stacy's mom, and her phone number is 867-5309
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Jesus Christ people. Here is the link for PILT (Payment in Lieu of Taxes) that the Federal goverment pays out. On this link you can search by state/fiscal year etc, to see how much in payments they've made. https://pilt.doi.gov/counties.cfm
What if Jessie's girl is Stacy's mom, and her phone number is 867-5309
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You don't seem to understand that every federal dollar comes from a taxpayer or goes on the deficit.
Raising taxes is not the answer. Ever. Transfer of money from city to rural is my point... Blue to Red... CLICK THE F'KING link https://pilt.doi.gov/counties.cfm
What if Jessie's girl is Stacy's mom, and her phone number is 867-5309
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