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wanted to go that route, but price of shells for it, changed my mind and unboxed a 700 lvsf in 223 and with 40gr vmax and blue dot I'm better off
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I have had a .22 mag most of my life. I like them a lot. That said, seems to me its about perfect for Racoons and fox. I have taken coyotes with them with no problem, but bigger would be better for that. I agree 100%. The Sako Quad I have has exceptional accuracy with Win. 40gr.hp's and the Ruger American I keep by the door really shoots the Hornady Vmax 30gr. well.
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I’ve never owned a magnum rimfire but I’m super impressed with my new Bergara BMR and see that they also make them in .22 magnum and .17 HMR. Problem is I can’t think of a use for the magnums that the LR wouldn’t probably also work. Main quarry around here are squirrels, raccoons, and the occasional possum and skunk…I’ve yet to find the super accurate LR lacking. My reading seems to suggest folks think the magnums are to light for coyotes…what am I missing? If you can’t think of a good use for the .22 mag, then one probably won’t be a good investment. A .17 HMR OTOH, is on average going to be more accurate and better for targets, and still work well on stuff short of coyotes. I have good .22s, a real good Hornet, and a couple of .223s, so am abstaining from either for now. If I take the plunge with either, it’ll probably be a CZ, or a barrel for my 457.
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A used Marlin 22 mag is still a reasonable way to start.. if you don't like or need the mag you can likely sell it for what you have into it
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1- Does it legally exist in your country?
2- Is it a firearm?
If you answered yes to both questions then you must buy it.
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Used to walk & hunt ground squirrels... a 22LR was good to around 75 yards. Felt the 22 Mag was good to 125 yards or so. These days, I'd go 17HMR instead, flatter and less chance of a ricochet.
YMMV,
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Do you really need someone to tell you to buy a new gun? Price of admission around here is to buy it, report on it, and then either talk about how great it is, or bad mouth it and send it down the road... Amen!! Preach it brother..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Problem is I can’t think of a use for the magnums I am not sure what that has to do with buying a gun. The 22 Magnum extends your range and gives you more oomph. Appreciably more. The 17 HMR is generally silly accurate with a variety of ammo, extends your range even more and is much less likely to ricochet. The 17 grain bullet comes apart easily.
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I'm not going to spend a $1000. to put a suppressor on a rifle so if I need a quiet rifle to kill coyotes out comes the 22 Mag.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Problem is I can’t think of a use for the magnums I am not sure what that has to do with buying a gun. The 22 Magnum extends your range and gives you more oomph. Appreciably more. The 17 HMR is generally silly accurate with a variety of ammo, extends your range even more and is much less likely to ricochet. The 17 grain bullet comes apart easily. Especially the TNT hollow point. Will not shoot through house cats, coons or possums that get into buildings.
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You hear a lot of folks say there is not much difference between a magnum and a long rifle. After you use a magnum, you will be impressed. Hasbeen
hasbeen (Better a has been than a never was!)
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Niche is a farm rifle. Will drop raccoons or other late night visitors to the barn or granery way better than a .22 lr, and for that use ammo cost is no big deal. You don't want a larger centerfire in a building. My Grandpa's farm gun was a .22 special, it may have been even perfecter.....more killing power than the lr but often staying in a critter so you didn't have a repair to a granery wall or floor. WMR is a little more likely to exit. We used to store cattle pellets and rolled oats with mollases in wooden graneries. It's an exciting night when the dog starts barking and the raccoon hunt is on!
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Niche is a farm rifle. Will drop raccoons or other late night visitors to the barn or granery way better than a .22 lr, and for that use ammo cost is no big deal. You don't want a larger centerfire in a building. My Grandpa's farm gun was a .22 special, it may have been even perfecter.....more killing power than the lr but often staying in a critter so you didn't have a repair to a granery wall or floor. WMR is a little more likely to exit. We used to store cattle pellets and rolled oats with mollases in wooden graneries. It's an exciting night when the dog starts barking and the raccoon hunt is on! 17 HMR=No Exits or ricochets.
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10, that 17 hmr might be perfect for barn and granery cleaning
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10, that 17 hmr might be perfect for barn and granery cleaning We like it inside of shops or barns. TNT by CCI is a no exit bullet. Same on skinny feral cats.
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Makes sense. Might need a new gun
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Yes the 22LR, 17M2, and 17HMR are generally all more accurate, but I’ll always have at least one 22 magnum for varmints. It does get the neighbors worked up like a centerfire going off and I feel it’s more effective than the smaller rimfires on coyotes and similar sized pests.
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.22 Hornet is a better tool, and more versatile if you load your own.
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Bought a CZ 457 20 inch heavy barrel installed a Track 4-12 in 22 WMR Like it so far. nice just pick a box of ammo and shoot not having to reload like the CF. Also with the CZ you can get the other barrels 22LR, 17HMR and swap them.
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Got my first .22 magnum when I was 16, an Anschutz 141M which is the last gun I'd ever get rid of. With a cheap 4X Weaver B4 rimfire scope it far out-killed the .22lr I'd been using up to that time. Stuff the size of porcupines and coons were decisively dead with one shot. Woodchucks died from body hits out to 150 yards, the two longest measured shots I made on them being 152 and 157 yards. IME the .22 magnum is a much more decisive killer of small/medium sized stuff than the .22 LR without getting into the hassle of reloading.
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