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I shoot 7-08 as I reload. Never had an issue getting components. It's only as hard as somebody makes it if they don't want to look.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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I shoot 7-08 as I reload. Never had an issue getting components. It's only as hard as somebody makes it if they don't want to look. I should preface - specific to 7-08. I mean, primers sucked for availability for everyone, regardless of cartridge. a 6.5 CM didn't make it easier to find them. Power etc. But bullets? Cases? - pretty easy.
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I missed where we found out the OP is a handloader.
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Ammo availability goes to the creed. 140eldm's would be my deer bullet. From muzzle velocity to waaaay out there.
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I shoot 7-08 as I reload. Never had an issue getting components. It's only as hard as somebody makes it if they don't want to look. I should preface - specific to 7-08. I mean, primers sucked for availability for everyone, regardless of cartridge. a 6.5 CM didn't make it easier to find them. Power etc. But bullets? Cases? - pretty easy. I knew what you were saying.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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To the OP......I think you should get both.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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I missed where we found out the OP is a handloader. Don't think anybody said he was and that's why many say 6.5 for wide selection of factory ammo that seems to be available.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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I missed where we found out the OP is a handloader. Don't think anybody said he was and that's why many say 6.5 for wide selection of factory ammo that seems to be available. No, but the talk started going in the direction of how the 6.5 had no advantage in that respect, and we don't even know if that's relevant.
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To the OP......I think you should get both. Thats right.
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I don't think there's much "marketing hype" that goes with the creedmoor. It was designed well and does pretty much everything that's been said about it. It's a bonus that Hornady actually promotes its cartridges and doesn't let them die by the wayside like Winchester has done. You want to hear some "marketing hype", watch some videos on the 325 WSM, when it made its debut. Those guys tried to blow smoke up our azzes and not too many of us bought in to it. The 6.5 Creedmoor is a little different in that regard. I don't think it was hyped up to do something it couldn't. I just feel the bullets, twist rates, and range finders were far more ground breaking than the cartridge. The 325 WSM was pointless from the get go. Hornady is not immune, though... 30TC.
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7mm-08 is a better cartridge in my book, wider bullet makes up for some of the downfalls in a 6.5… although with current situations ammo availability in 6.5 is better. Might give 6.5 prc a look as it bridges the gap between the 2 "Bridges the gap between the 2". That had me rolling. The 6.5 and 7mm08 are really like 2 peas in a pod. Generally the 6.5 edges out the 7 in precision/accuracy and factory ammo is much easier to find for the 6.5. As well as it is much easier to find components for the 6.5. One reason I'll be shooting one of my creedmoors here in a bit and the 7mm08 sits in the safe. Those that don't get it, may never understand, but that is the simple facts of the matter.. Mathman was trying to steer the OP in the easier direction, but you know what they say about leading a horse to water. By the way, keep those jokes coming. That was a good one about bridging a gap with the PRC.. Speaking of rolling. A 1 moa target (at any range, in any wind) will be a cake walk for any of my 6.5 cm rifles... Carry on though...
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Isn't the F-Class ten ring 1 moa?
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Yes I do reload, I also have some 284 bullets to reload with
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Isn't the F-Class ten ring 1 moa? Yes it is.
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Isn't the F-Class ten ring 1 moa? Yes it is. Easy peasy at 1000 yards, in any wind. Right? 
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Six, half dozen the other for deer. If choosing the 6.5, I would stay with somewhat lighter cup and core bullet for deer. I took two deer with the 6.5 140 grain accubonds that did not open up much or leave much of a blood trail. Both deer recovered, but it took some tracking. Both double lung shots. Never had any trouble with 6.5 or 7mm cup and core like Hornady Interlock etc. Use one that will open up. 6.5 140 grainers are long bullets and will hold together. I don't think they need to be bonded or mono- metal on top of that. Nothing in any chambering I have has given the same level of quick kills with great penetration as the oft maligned 140 Gamekings out of my 260 Rem. I went to 120's because I thought my slower twist demanded it - despite my lying eyes. I have used various 120's with good success but the 140 GK to me is perfection. Going back to them.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
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Yes I do reload, I also have some 284 bullets to reload with That definitely helps if you go with the 7mm08. Which bullets do you have on hand?
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I just "assembled" this CM, DIY parts from Defiance/Proof/Mcmillan, my second CM, sold the first one as I didn't like the particular rifle. It's as advertised, easy to shoot, affordable/available ammo and effective on deer sized game. Really likes these Berger 140 Hybrid Target bullets. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/W3r6QD.jpg) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/8r9R09.jpg)
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I have 160 in Accubond and Partition, 150 Nos BT, 140 AccuBond, 120 Sierra Spitzer, 175 Speer Mag-Tip
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You'll kick some serious asss with those 140 AB's running 2800fps.
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