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Big fan of quality PCP rifles. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. I’m particularly fond of .25 cal. 27g pellets at 900fps really thump.

Two of my brothers compete with these guns at 100yds. Quality air rifles are one hole accurate at 50yds if the speed is tuned to the particular pellet. Properly set up, and with good wind and range dope, ballistic software tells you how to hold for long range. For perspective, they are crazy effective out beyond a 150yds on starling sized targets. I’ve seen my brother shoot ground squirrels at over 200yds (he competes nationally).

Best part is it’s cheap and quiet to shoot once you set up with all the necessities. For example, I ordered 2000 .22 pellets today for<$70. Most of us would like more trigger time. This is the best way I’ve found.

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I have Hatsans in .25 and .30 caliber. Both are nice - and accurate. The .30, of course, shoots a heavier pellet - and is a larger rifle. The "standard" weight pellet from Vortex is .44.75 gr, but I have found some much heavier, from the 50.2 grain offerings from JSB and FX to a "pellet" from Seneca in .30 caliber that weighs 171 grains! Both the .25 and .30 caliber rifles are break barrel springers. I scope mine with Weaver centerfire rifle scopes on mounts sold to withstand break barrel "recoil". Pretty inexpensive - and effective - alternative to PCP!

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Originally Posted by elkaddict
Big fan of quality PCP rifles. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. I’m particularly fond of .25 cal. 27g pellets at 900fps really thump.

Two of my brothers compete with these guns at 100yds. Quality air rifles are one hole accurate at 50yds if the speed is tuned to the particular pellet. Properly set up, and with good wind and range dope, ballistic software tells you how to hold for long range. For perspective, they are crazy effective out beyond a 150yds on starling sized targets. I’ve seen my brother shoot ground squirrels at over 200yds (he competes nationally).

Best part is it’s cheap and quiet to shoot once you set up with all the necessities. For example, I ordered 2000 .22 pellets today for<$70. Most of us would like more trigger time. This is the best way I’ve found.


Amen! I shoot a Brocock XR Commander in .22 and a Taipan Vet in .25 that definitely do the job. Once you try these PCP's, there's no looking back. Very quite also with a decent moderator. There was one heck of a deal in classifieds a few days ago in a nice Taipan. It might still be there.

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I’ve been shooting PCP’s for 15 years( various Daystates). Killed a lot of ground squirrels, coyotes, and wild hogs with no drama. No comparison to springers.

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I'm not sure what a logical Next Level air rifle is to anyone but me.

BB guns led to multi pump Crosman and Benjamin air rifles and pistols. Soon I was using break barrel springers and now mostly Gas Ram rifles.

Most of the time I'm wishing I had a bunch of Collared Doves or Starlings that needed to be thinned out so I could justify a top tier PCP... grin

Sadly, my pesting is usually a single raccoon, possum, squirrel or maybe a pigeon in the barn so I don't need lots of firepower.

My only PCP is a Gamo Urban which reminded me why I liked multi pump rifles so much, they don't move when shot.

If I fell in with competitors in a local club, I'm sure I'd need to "upgrade" but I'm set for now.


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