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What's your load for these Hanco?
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Just to be contrarian …Run the rumbers for a 162 or 162-gr bullet with high BC.
At 500 yards, the difference in drift and energy versus a 120-gr. Bullet is impressive.
I know everyone, including me, wants the higher velocity of a lighter bullet, but a longer and softer bullet is worth a second look.
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What's your load for these Hanco? 47 grains of IMR 4350
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Just to be contrarian …Run the rumbers for a 162 or 162-gr bullet with high BC.
At 500 yards, the difference in drift and energy versus a 120-gr. Bullet is impressive.
I know everyone, including me, wants the higher velocity of a lighter bullet, but a longer and softer bullet is worth a second look. Most of us have no interest in what a bullet does at 500 yards or beyond.
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At least nine different bullet recommendations.
Which tells me there is no overwhelming clear choice.
Whatever your rifle shoots well that you can actually find on the shelf.
Deer die pretty easy with proper placement.
P Amen.^^^ What I realize is the 7mm08 is so much like its parent case (308w) and we know that cartridge has so many good bullet choices. One thing about it, it's really hard to pick a bad bullet for either cartridge. Hell, I just bought a few hundred 150gr Winchester powerpoint bullets and I know those will work near and far in the 7mm08. Use what shoots good enough for you and you'll be just fine. Fill some arks.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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You're right.....one bullet/one load......140 Accubond running 2800. If you can find them. Big Game powder, of course. P Of course. Another very accurate choice is the 140 Sierra HPBT. Good terminal performance. Slightly more accurate than NAB 120 and 140’s. Kills well. DF
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Know where to find some? About to reload .280 rem and want some of these
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Not really. I pick up some when I can.
Expansive but great bullets, the Hammer series. They’re mono, super accurate with great terminal performance. Google Hammer Bullets. And they seem to always have them in stock.
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. I mostly agree, but think of the difference between a .264 140 Berger and a 140 Partition. The Berger has very little bearing surface compared to the PT so you get some free speed. Not sure if it could equate to 150-200 FPS safely but I’d imagine it’s only a matter of time till we see some pressure data backing up Hammers info.
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure. In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance. Interesting technology. DF
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What's your load for these Hanco? 47 grains of IMR 4350 Varget will get you there also
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. The absolute hammers have a super short engraving surface so there is less pressure build up. The added velocity is especially pronounced in non-magnum cartridges. The trick is to go to a relatively faster powder because you tend to run out of case with the slow ones. I get 3050 fps and 1/2" groups in my Savage 116 30-06 with the 162 AH and 54.5 gr of Varget. Not a single sign of excessive pressure. go here and download the PDF on load data https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/absolute-hammer-load-data.250143/
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Interesting. Having never seen any, I was curious to see how that is possible. Thanks for the info.
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........... Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance.
Interesting technology.
DF yes super accurate.
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure. In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance. Interesting technology. DF I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure. In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance. Interesting technology. DF I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across “Smart fella”…. Where? Ha! DF
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure. In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance. Interesting technology. DF I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across “Smart fella”…. Where? Ha! DF I think he meant to say fart smeller..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Choose an absolute hammer in your grain of choice and rock on. In the 7mm-08 they are running more than 100-150 fps more at similar pressures. Being in stock always and super accurate are a plus. A few are getting over 3k fps with the 140 AH in the 7mm-08. https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/284-7mm/Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever. Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure. In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance. Interesting technology. DF I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across “Smart fella”…. Where? Ha! DF I think he meant to say fart smeller.. Makes a lot more sense. DF
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