|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,905 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,905 Likes: 1 |
The Utah DNR reports estimated 75% loss of Elk/Deer population thus far.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,959 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,959 Likes: 4 |
Got a link? I'd like to read more.
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
We are all Rhodesians now.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,681 Likes: 4
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,681 Likes: 4 |
Holy cow! That's hard to believe. I take it either disease or winter kill.
Last edited by 1911a1; 03/30/23.
Figures don't lie, But Liars figure Assumption is the mother of mistakes
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,409 Likes: 5
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,409 Likes: 5 |
Holy cow! That's hard to believe. I take it either disease or winter kill. Winter kill. Much of UT has 200% or more of normal snowpack and there's a lot of winter left yet. Just because the calendar says it's spring doesn't mean the flowers are blooming. When the animals get weak, disease can wipe them out, too.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,037 Likes: 6
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,037 Likes: 6 |
Rock Chuck: And I am now starting to worry about Montanas Big Game herds! Snowing now here with winter storm warning until tomorrow (3/31/2023). Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,528 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,528 Likes: 4 |
75% total mortality rate for deer and elk in Utah sounds like an apocalyptic mortality rate. I hope it isn’t true but if it is that’ll cause significant problems for the next 10 years at a minimum.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
--------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,905 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,905 Likes: 1 |
The Bears will eat well when they come out of their dens.
I do not have a link. This is relayed from my daughter listening to the radio news. She lives in Morgan, UT.
Last edited by Reloder28; 03/30/23.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 31,278 Likes: 8
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 31,278 Likes: 8 |
The news is the same for Wyoming, where they say 50% or more of the antelope herd has died in the central part of the state. Edit to add... LINK
Last edited by RockyRaab; 03/30/23.
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,864 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,864 Likes: 5 |
South East Idaho isn’t much better, I’m afraid. Deer are just laying down and dying at this point. The worst part is yet to come when the first green up appears. Deer that are used to nothing but dry old forage can and do founder on the first green shoots.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 409
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 409 |
No way 75% of Elk died, even on a given unit. There will probably be close to that number of winter kill in the Northern part of the state, since there is no winter range left due to human habitat encroachment. The Southern half of the state will fare much better, as they actually have plenty of winter range for the animals to get out of the snow.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 30,841 Likes: 15
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 30,841 Likes: 15 |
Holy cow! That's hard to believe. I take it either disease or winter kill. Winter kill. Much of UT has 200% or more of normal snowpack and there's a lot of winter left yet. Just because the calendar says it's spring doesn't mean the flowers are blooming. When the animals get weak, disease can wipe them out, too. Snow pack is heavy.....most in 40+ years https://www.ksl.com/weather/snowpack
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 10,314 Likes: 3
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 10,314 Likes: 3 |
Dang, I have 20 points in Utah, was hoping to finally draw in the Wasatch area this year. I might oughta just put in for another point this year.
Black Cows Matter!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,851
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,851 |
If true across the western US, I wonder how it will affect the out of state hunters applying for tags.
It has long been my opinion, the Division of Wildlife routinely issues a disparity of out of state tags sold at an inflated rate. It is a big revenue stream....residents don't pay as much and thus don't count.
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:10
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 747
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 747 |
I had already feared that mortality. About 10 years ago here in NY we had a hell bender of a winter. Come Spring, there were tons of reports of deer winter yards full of dead deer. And our turkeys took a real bad hit too. It took about 4 mild winters for the herds and birds to recover.
Sorry to hear that and we can hope for the best.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,166
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,166 |
Dang, I have 20 points in Utah, was hoping to finally draw in the Wasatch area this year. I might oughta just put in for another point this year. I drew the Wasatch late rifle elk last season. Plenty of snow up there even then.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,667
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,667 |
75% total mortality rate for deer and elk in Utah sounds like an apocalyptic mortality rate. I hope it isn’t true but if it is that’ll cause significant problems for the next 10 years at a minimum. True, but back in 2011-12 we lost 75-80% of the deer herd statewide to drought and EHD. Still hasn’t come back. Mother Nature is an evil bitch.
Swifty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 7,008
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 7,008 |
Dang, I have 20 points in Utah, was hoping to finally draw in the Wasatch area this year. I might oughta just put in for another point this year. If it were me I would just buy a point. I live up there and the snow is brutal. The deer look like hell and the elk not much better. Just my 2 cents.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 30,841 Likes: 15
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 30,841 Likes: 15 |
Dang, I have 20 points in Utah, was hoping to finally draw in the Wasatch area this year. I might oughta just put in for another point this year. yep.....I'd be buying a point We have a lot of local winter range.....opens to motorized travel again April 15th That will most likely be on sleds.....but..... Shed hunters are delayed till April 30th ? Correct me if wrong Along with the mega snow year....Highway 6 has taken a terrible toll on deer/elk/moose https://www.ksl.com/article/5059692...ah-roads-with-over-1000-killed-this-year
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,110
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,110 |
Big flakes coming down as we speak up north. Still more areas covered with snow on the ground vs open grass. 4 ft piles of snow along the roads @ 4000' elev.
Hard to find a "balance" between water in the rivers and reservoirs vs animals in the hills. "Experts" and pan handlers are STILL crying about the GSL drying up!
Man will be man and think he has all this figured out including solutions for everything. Mother Nature kicks ass and is no respecter of persons. The strong will survive...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,809
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,809 |
Mathew 22: 37-39
|
|
|
|
658 members (1beaver_shooter, 16gage, 160user, 1Longbow, 01Foreman400, 12344mag, 67 invisible),
3,050
guests, and
1,285
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,620
Posts18,492,682
Members73,972
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|