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Originally Posted by UselessEater
If you have no carbs in your diet you need 80% of your calories have to come from fat. Master fish, crawdad, raccoon and muskrat trapping and you will last a lot longer than the deer hunters.
This. A la ‘rabbit starvation’.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A quick search on just TX showed 1.1 million licensed hunters and an estimated 1.5 mill hogs. If each hunter tried to shoot just 2, they'd be out of hogs. Of course many of the hogs would be inedible.
Some big assumptions there on the ability of the general public to locate, kill and harvest hogs. Maybe 10% would have a clue. Maybe 3% successful.


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
My daddy said that back in the Great Depression rabbits were very scarce.

Hoover Hogs also were fair game.

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I could live off all kinds of game animals.

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Yes, both here in Texas and in north Idaho.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
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Locally there is also elk, pronghorns, big horn sheep, bears, birds and lots of cattle.

Wild horses are also in the mix.
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Locally there is also elk, pronghorns, big horn sheep, bears, birds and lots of cattle.

Wild horses are also in the mix.
You need a salad, bro. Just sayin’
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Rule #1 in such a scenario. Be where the masses of people ain't.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
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Locally there is also elk, pronghorns, big horn sheep, bears, birds and lots of cattle.

Wild horses are also in the mix.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Locally there is also elk, pronghorns, big horn sheep, bears, birds and lots of cattle.

Wild horses are also in the mix.
You need a salad, bro. Just sayin’
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I've always wanted to try wild horse meat.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A quick search on just TX showed 1.1 million licensed hunters and an estimated 1.5 mill hogs. If each hunter tried to shoot just 2, they'd be out of hogs. Of course many of the hogs would be inedible.

You don’t quite grasp the reproduction cycle of hogs……
They breed like flies but they can't withstand an army of hunters desperate for food. Killing 1 mature sow will eliminate a couple dozen pigs a year just from her, not to mention her future daughters.


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I’m pretty sure more deer are killed by autos than rifles, at least in SD.

One year I had shot 6 whitetails and it fed our family and several foster kids for over 6 months.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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A quick search on just TX showed 1.1 million licensed hunters and an estimated 1.5 mill hogs. If each hunter tried to shoot just 2, they'd be out of hogs. Of course many of the hogs would be inedible.

You don’t quite grasp the reproduction cycle of hogs……
They breed like flies but they can't withstand an army of hunters desperate for food. Killing 1 mature sow will eliminate a couple dozen pigs a year just from her, not to mention her future daughters.

They do just fine around hunters.

The only thing that can control hogs below the environment’s carrying capacity is trapping and poison.


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When most of my neighbors have cattle and domestic hogs by the dozens, or possibly hundreds, why would I want to waste time chasing deer? They can share (most likely) or I can take what I need. Either way, nothing of value will be wasted. Once the neighbors and I are well fed, we can focus on repelling the starving hordes from the cities who have looted everything from the local grocery stores and fast food joints.


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Assuming I can get a boat in the water, I can make it to my houseboat. Deer, rabbit, nutria, fish, alligator and the only access is by boat.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A quick search on just TX showed 1.1 million licensed hunters and an estimated 1.5 mill hogs. If each hunter tried to shoot just 2, they'd be out of hogs. Of course many of the hogs would be inedible.

Texas has a pretty aggressive hog eradication program going on right now and hogs shot by hunters is not effective.

Trapping and heli-hunting seem the most effective but the pig population keeps growing.

I don't think a mob of people can move out of the big cities using hunting and survive very far.


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I’d cream out the neighbors cows and horses first, move onto elk, hopefully I’ll be dead before I gotta eat rank Blacktail.😆


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Lots of guys on here talk about shooting deer to feed the family. I got curious on just how long the deer population would last if/when it gets to this.

If it gets to this, theres gonna be a schittload less humans on your list to compete with.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Lots of guys on here talk...

Here are the links to human and deer populations for

I was trying to convince the survivalists of the futility of a bug out vehicle and deer hunting more than 25 years ago on the old usenet.
Can't be done.

But they are not all that dumb.

25 years ago the guy who owned a survivalist store, the foxhole, beat my ivy league attorney brother in law in court.
Then I met the guy at a Monroe gun show.
So I asked him, "Do you plan on a bug out vehicle and going deer hunting?"
The soft spoken guy would not answer the question.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Lots of guys on here talk about shooting deer to feed the family. I got curious on just how long the deer population would last if/when it gets to this.

If it gets to this, theres gonna be a schittload less humans on your list to compete with.
This. Folks will die off pretty fast because of a number of variables. The animal population will thrive IMO.

A lot of these scenarios assume that "everyday Dave" is a good shot and knows how to hunt and process during whatever apocalypse scenario is played out, but let's face it, do half your coworkers have the capacity to kill, gut, cook and preserve meat if SHTF? Probably not.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
in the late 1800's and early 1900's, market hunters decimated the deer and other game. Some states had less than 1000 deer left in the whole state. There are a lot more hunters today that there were market hunters then and they have better equipment. The deer wouldn't have a chance.

Yeah, the hunters in the Country would decimate the deer if the SHTF, quickly. The people living in the big cities, are fuqued.


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No. They would be shoot out in short order.


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