Building some ultralight rifles. Want under 16 oz., shots to 300 max, no turret twisting. Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, what else is out there you recommend.
Building some ultralight rifles. Want under 16 oz., shots to 300 max, no turret twisting. Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, what else is out there you recommend.
What experience have YOU had with Leupold?? You are not much of a man if you are going to let others here dictate what you use. I use the hell out of Burris FFII 3-9x40 with the ballistic plex reticle, because it simply works. I'm not going to say that's what you should get though. 300 yards is not a very far shot. I've had issues with Leupold and don't trust them for the most part, but I was out yesterday with a rifle wearing a Leupold. It's an older Vari-X IIc 3-9X40 Tactical that I trust for right now. If you haven't had any problems with Leupold, keep using them.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore.
Building some ultralight rifles. Want under 16 oz., shots to 300 max, no turret twisting. Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, what else is out there you recommend.
Kicking Leupold seems to be the favorite 'campfire sport. I have been using Leupold 6x36 on my hunting rifles for decades and have not had one let me down yet. For what you want I don't know of anything better than those.
drover
223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore.
Building some ultralight rifles. Want under 16 oz., shots to 300 max, no turret twisting. Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, what else is out there you recommend.
Kicking Leupold seems to be the favorite 'campfire sport. I have been using Leupold 6x36 on my hunting rifles for decades and have not had one let me down yet. For what you want I don't know of anything better than them.
drover
I can't imagine a fixed anything scope that would not hold up.
Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore.
In whatever realm one may delve you will usually find Negative Ninnies overwhelmed with their own vast inferiority complexes attempting to fit into normality by self-aggrandizing. Democrats in drag disguise but with vast imaginations or abilities to mimic and/or magnify negativities others have expressed. Sometimes I wonder if the Leupold haters are of such ilk. I'd estimate that I have shot thousands of rounds under Leupolds through relatively stout recoiling guns, a lightweight, short barreled Ithaca 37 shooting slugs and magnum turkey loads, single shot 30-284 loaded to the max, then a Kimber Montana 300WSM. I saw a 12ga shotgun dropped 12 - 14 ft from a tree stand. It landed on the M8 2Xscope. When later tested the slugs were averaging 1" high and 1" to the right at 70 yards. I now have that scope. It's mounted on my 20ga TC Turkey. In 2004 I had a Leupold fail but given their history with me I'm sold on the brand.
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Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore.
+1000
Other then posting stupidity how do you contribute to a conversation?
Whats wrong with a Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40? I certainly would not let the opinion of some of the "keyboard experts" on this site influence my decision ....Hb
have you considered a low power fixed power scope? I hunted with a 2 3/x Redfield on my Rem 660 for a lot of years and it never failed me. They don't have that big bell out front! Mine was a widfield and rode low on the rifle. used a fixed 4x on my 7mm mag but think it would need higher mounts. Yet that 4x never let me down either!
I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out?
I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope.
Your "life's" supply of fired cases,wouldn't fill the bottom of a TicTac dispenser...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore.
Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore.
Preach, brother!
Agree with the sentiment. The 1.5-5x20 was always the easy button for a decent quality lightweight, compact scope. I have a few of the VX-2 ultralights, which are also among my favorites. That clean, used ultralights are bringing about $100 more than they sold for when new is probably a good indicator of supply vs. demand for scopes of this type.
I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out?
I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope.
I've had good luck with several Sightrons over the past couple of decades. Haven't found their duplex to be limiting for my uses. The 13 oz doesn't bother me. Main concern is reliability, which I haven't always found with several models of lighter scopes that have smaller ocular housings. I want something that holds zero after a lot of knocking about on FS roads and while tripping over snow covered deadfall while putting the track on or still hunting second and third growth timber. I'd prefer a #4 variety reticle, but is what it is. Center is center.
Some folks actually shoot and it's never been difficult to understand who do and who don't...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Just sayin'.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out?
I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope.
I've had good luck with several Sightrons over the past couple of decades. Haven't found their duplex to be limiting for my uses. The 13 oz doesn't bother me. Main concern is reliability, which I haven't always found with several models of lighter scopes that have smaller ocular housings. I want something that holds zero after a lot of knocking about on FS roads and while tripping over snow covered deadfall while putting the track on or still hunting second and third growth timber. I'd prefer a #4 variety reticle, but is what it is. Center is center.
My old Sightron holds the distinction of being the only scope I ever had internally fog so it didn't get high marks for reliability.
I been down the rabbit hole for reliability in scopes. Lots will hold up to recoil, few can survive even a small fall on their side. Trijicon would serve you well, but I need alpha glass, so I just ordered a Schmidt. If you were shooting Leupold, then trijicon glass should look normal/good. I believe it's LOW Glass. I'm sorry to say, Leupold is failing in the reliability realm these days. NOT just here.
Al, I was not aware of this 1.75x5x32 model. This one is a consideration.
Agree ^^ I'd have to buy a new rifle to put it on. This place is really good about spending my money.
kwg
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It appears that my Reupold MK4 Spotter is delaminating a coating internally,from 2:30 to 7:30 on all magnifications. Hint.
Though it has puked on me before. Hint.
Reupold Mk4 M3 6x getting pried offa' new S/S 70 Classic Alaskan Express Six-bits,after the first outing this morning. Thought I could trick myself and make a go of it. Nope. Hint.
Fhuqk the rear sight boss,4" of spout and .685" at 21" is a nice place to be. Hint.
Just sayin'.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Winchester is amongst the BEST at fhuqking up contours,throat geometry,COAL latitude,RPM and stock design. This fhuqking thing at 3.610" COAL,is leaping well over .100"++,with 270 Speer BTSP's. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
6x MQ SS is on the short list, but I was kind of hoping the 2-10x32 would show up first to see if it’s the scope I’m looking for. Been on back order since early January…
They sent me a new one. The new one had an obvious, visible blemish on an internal lens so I sent that one back too. They sent me a second new one and I immediately sold it. Never did care for the super thin center crosshairs. Their customer service was excellent.
Bullet proof means what to you ? To me it means something that with take rough treatment and still work. I've never had a Leupold shift zero from the bad falls where I have literally pitched m rifle away from me and down on the rocks. That includes an M8 4X, an FXII 4X, a VariX II, 3-9 Compact, an FX3 6X42, and a 1.5-4X Scout Scope. As far as 300 yds. shots, that can be done with iron sights in good light. Any of the above can easily do that. BTW, considering Phil Shoemaker's experience with the Leuold 2.5X Ultralight, 6.5 ozs., I've seriously considered buying one. I haven't simply because I have more than enough good, tough scopes. E
Building some ultralight rifles. Want under 16 oz., shots to 300 max, no turret twisting. Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, what else is out there you recommend.
What experience have YOU had with Leupold?? You are not much of a man if you are going to let others here dictate what you use. I use the hell out of Burris FFII 3-9x40 with the ballistic plex reticle, because it simply works. I'm not going to say that's what you should get though. 300 yards is not a very far shot. I've had issues with Leupold and don't trust them for the most part, but I was out yesterday with a rifle wearing a Leupold. It's an older Vari-X IIc 3-9X40 Tactical that I trust for right now. If you haven't had any problems with Leupold, keep using them.
Wow right out of the gate. I'm thinking you need to get laid, might take the edge off, the grumpy!😎
I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out?
I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope.
I've had good luck with several Sightrons over the past couple of decades. Haven't found their duplex to be limiting for my uses. The 13 oz doesn't bother me. Main concern is reliability, which I haven't always found with several models of lighter scopes that have smaller ocular housings. I want something that holds zero after a lot of knocking about on FS roads and while tripping over snow covered deadfall while putting the track on or still hunting second and third growth timber. I'd prefer a #4 variety reticle, but is what it is. Center is center.
I went through this recently wanting to replace a fixed 6x Burris (been a great scope) preferably with another #4 but in a variable. I did look at the Sightron but not crazy on the reticle. I had an SII years ago but ditched it. Looked at another Meopta, another Burris, the Natchezss Weaver (which got me interested) even Trijicon and Swaro ( last two I felt just too much $$$ for something I really don't 'need'. The LAST place I looked was at the Leupold Freedom which lo and behold I discovered is offered in a #4. Certainly not a heavy scope. I will see how it stacks up against my other Burris or VX3. Nice looking scope too. Not crazy knarled power ring or 3 inch turrets. Decent clicks. Checked all the boxes for me. Still, if doing all over I might have just gone with a Fullfield with a BP reticle and saved a few bucks. Really hard to beat them- but so far am liking the new Leupold and kept in budget. None I looked at were Chinese. Prerequisite.
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The Vortex Razor HD LH 1.5-8 prior to the current versions is a very nice scope in the 13 ounce weight range.
yes good glass, a nice reticle far or near and made by LOW in Japan. Getting a little harder to find now
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Building some ultralight rifles. Want under 16 oz., shots to 300 max, no turret twisting. Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, what else is out there you recommend.
What experience have YOU had with Leupold?? You are not much of a man if you are going to let others here dictate what you use. I use the hell out of Burris FFII 3-9x40 with the ballistic plex reticle, because it simply works. I'm not going to say that's what you should get though. 300 yards is not a very far shot. I've had issues with Leupold and don't trust them for the most part, but I was out yesterday with a rifle wearing a Leupold. It's an older Vari-X IIc 3-9X40 Tactical that I trust for right now. If you haven't had any problems with Leupold, keep using them.
"You are not much of a man if you are going to let others here dictate what you use" WTF??? Asking for product feedback is not the same as letting others "dictate" what you use. F'ME!
Maven RS2 2.5-10. 13 oz I think. Sits on my backcountry MKV 240 and my TI 2.0 MKV 6.5 RPM
How is the eye relief ? I hear it is short. And how is the eye box ? I hear the optics are brite and it is a tough little scope , but never hear anything about actually using it to kill deer.
I’d echo some of the Sightron comments. Their SII Big Sky 6x42 was crazy bright/clear, and trumped a lot of much more expensive stuff in that regard. However, the duplex reticle disappeared way before it should have, due to the thinness.
If you can find a Leupold that checks your boxes, go for it. I’m not a Leupold badger by any means, but the have made some line changes for the worse lately, IMO. I love the discontinued versions of the 1-4, 1.5-5, VX-R and heavy reticles or custom shop options.
I also have zero negative to say about Trijicons in general, and especially the Accupoint. Awesome hunting scopes.
The Vortex LHs in 1.5-8 and 2-10 are tho only Vortex scopes I’ve kept, I think. They’re very nice.
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