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Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18364026 04/22/23
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 28,076 Likes: 2 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger
alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 28,076 Likes: 2 TN	Why not a Leupold 2.5-8x36?

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Re: Bulletproof lightweight Al_Nyhus #18364107 04/22/23
Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,373 South Texas F FSJeeper Campfire Regular
FSJeeper Campfire Regular F Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,373 South Texas	Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus I suggest giving the Sightron S1's a serious look. https://sightron.com/collections/s1-series Al, I was not aware of this 1.75x5x32 model. This one is a consideration.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18364269 04/22/23
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 23,433 C Calvin Campfire Ranger
Calvin Campfire Ranger C Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 23,433	Trijicon credo 3-9x40 comes in at 17oz. Solid scopes. Am impressed with them so far.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Al_Nyhus #18364692 04/22/23
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,221 Northwoods S Starbuck Campfire Regular
Starbuck Campfire Regular S Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,221 Northwoods	Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus I suggest giving the Sightron S1's a serious look. https://sightron.com/collections/s1-series Al: I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out?

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Starbuck #18364749 04/22/23
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,240 Likes: 3 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger
Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,240 Likes: 3	Originally Posted by Starbuck Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus I suggest giving the Sightron S1's a serious lok. https://sightron.com/collections/s1-series Al: I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out? I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope.

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Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18364769 04/22/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska	Flufftart, Your "life's" supply of fired cases,wouldn't fill the bottom of a TicTac dispenser...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18364773 04/22/23
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 28,076 Likes: 2 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger
alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 28,076 Likes: 2 TN

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Blackheart #18365054 04/23/23
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,323 Eastern N.C. Triggernosis Campfire Tracker
Triggernosis Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,323 Eastern N.C.	Originally Posted by Blackheart Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore. Preach, brother!

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18365097 04/23/23
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 75 M meat sticks Campfire Greenhorn
meat sticks Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 75	Originally Posted by Biathlonman Typically run Leupold fixed powers but they seem to have fallen out of favor here, . Only here, and only with a few paid hatchet men and their followers. Leupold still killing game outside of 24hour land all day every day.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Triggernosis #18365333 04/23/23
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 429 Northern Virginia T TeeBone Campfire Member
TeeBone Campfire Member T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 429 Northern Virginia	Originally Posted by Triggernosis Originally Posted by Blackheart Good luck. I've recently been looking for a good, lightweight, low power variable to put on a lever gun and there ain't any. Even Leupold fuucked up their 1-4x20 and 1.5-5x20 with CDS turrets and stupid ass reticles unsuited for close range hunting in dark woods. Everything else is too big and/or heavy with giant eye bells, huge power rings, goofy ass throw levers, 30mm tubes, turrets the size of an Aztec burial mound and/or reticles that look like a goddam Christmas tree. Came to the conclusion I'm going to have to buy used because NOBODY makes a good HUNTING scope for a lever gun anymore. Preach, brother! Agree with the sentiment. The 1.5-5x20 was always the easy button for a decent quality lightweight, compact scope. I have a few of the VX-2 ultralights, which are also among my favorites. That clean, used ultralights are bringing about $100 more than they sold for when new is probably a good indicator of supply vs. demand for scopes of this type. Guess I will need to turn in my man card now.

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Re: Bulletproof lightweight Blackheart #18365621 04/23/23
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,221 Northwoods S Starbuck Campfire Regular
Starbuck Campfire Regular S Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,221 Northwoods	Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by Starbuck Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus I suggest giving the Sightron S1's a serious lok. https://sightron.com/collections/s1-series Al: I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out? I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope. I've had good luck with several Sightrons over the past couple of decades. Haven't found their duplex to be limiting for my uses. The 13 oz doesn't bother me. Main concern is reliability, which I haven't always found with several models of lighter scopes that have smaller ocular housings. I want something that holds zero after a lot of knocking about on FS roads and while tripping over snow covered deadfall while putting the track on or still hunting second and third growth timber. I'd prefer a #4 variety reticle, but is what it is. Center is center.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18365639 04/23/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska	Some folks actually shoot and it's never been difficult to understand who do and who don't...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!? Just sayin'. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18365681 04/23/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska	The antithesis of Reupold. Hint. Just sayin'. Hint. Fhuqkin LAUGHING!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Starbuck #18365964 04/23/23
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,240 Likes: 3 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger
Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,240 Likes: 3	Originally Posted by Starbuck Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by Starbuck Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus I suggest giving the Sightron S1's a serious lok. https://sightron.com/collections/s1-series Al: I'm looking to give the 1.75-5 S1 a try on a couple of old school levers. Have you ran any of that model since they came out? I'd be interested to hear how that works out. I considered it but I had a Sightron S-1 before and didn't like their wider than average duplex with very thin center crosshairs that were quick to disappear in fading light. It appears Sightron has stuck with those same crosshairs on the G-2's. It also appears to suffer from the trendy overly bloated ocular bell and power ring that are so popular today and might require higher rings than I want on my lever rifles in order to clear the hammer. Those negatives plus the nearly 13 oz. weight made me cross it off my list as a lever gun scope. I've had good luck with several Sightrons over the past couple of decades. Haven't found their duplex to be limiting for my uses. The 13 oz doesn't bother me. Main concern is reliability, which I haven't always found with several models of lighter scopes that have smaller ocular housings. I want something that holds zero after a lot of knocking about on FS roads and while tripping over snow covered deadfall while putting the track on or still hunting second and third growth timber. I'd prefer a #4 variety reticle, but is what it is. Center is center. My old Sightron holds the distinction of being the only scope I ever had internally fog so it didn't get high marks for reliability.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18366092 04/23/23
Joined: Apr 2023 Posts: 52 G Gallahad Campfire Greenhorn
Gallahad Campfire Greenhorn G Joined: Apr 2023 Posts: 52	I been down the rabbit hole for reliability in scopes. Lots will hold up to recoil, few can survive even a small fall on their side. Trijicon would serve you well, but I need alpha glass, so I just ordered a Schmidt. If you were shooting Leupold, then trijicon glass should look normal/good. I believe it's LOW Glass. I'm sorry to say, Leupold is failing in the reliability realm these days. NOT just here.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight FSJeeper #18366112 04/23/23
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,210 Likes: 2 North of Des Moines kwg020 Campfire Ranger
kwg020 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,210 Likes: 2 North of Des Moines	Originally Posted by FSJeeper Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus I suggest giving the Sightron S1's a serious look. https://sightron.com/collections/s1-series Al, I was not aware of this 1.75x5x32 model. This one is a consideration. Agree ^^ I'd have to buy a new rifle to put it on. This place is really good about spending my money. kwg For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18366230 04/23/23
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,562 G ghostrider272 Campfire Regular
ghostrider272 Campfire Regular G Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,562	The Swarovski Z3 3-9 and 3-10 are under 16 oz (actually 12-13). I have had good luck with my 3-9s.

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18366231 04/23/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska	It appears that my Reupold MK4 Spotter is delaminating a coating internally,from 2:30 to 7:30 on all magnifications. Hint. Though it has puked on me before. Hint. Reupold Mk4 M3 6x getting pried offa' new S/S 70 Classic Alaskan Express Six-bits,after the first outing this morning. Thought I could trick myself and make a go of it. Nope. Hint. Fhuqk the rear sight boss,4" of spout and .685" at 21" is a nice place to be. Hint. Just sayin'. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18366337 04/23/23
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,898 Likes: 7 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger
AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,898 Likes: 7	That turned out well. I’ve not done the chop, but the contour on the SC version is a hell of a lot more palatable than the old CT version (0.81”@21”)

Re: Bulletproof lightweight Biathlonman #18366356 04/23/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,535 Likes: 6 Paradise,Alaska	My gut hunch was on THE money. Hint.(grin) Winchester is amongst the BEST at fhuqking up contours,throat geometry,COAL latitude,RPM and stock design. This fhuqking thing at 3.610" COAL,is leaping well over .100"++,with 270 Speer BTSP's. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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