There is an ethical and legal obligation to ensure nonnative reptiles are killed in a humane manner.
The standard anti-cruelty law is required to be followed, it's the only law enforced when hunting these snakes.
To follow the law it's a two step process.
Step 1- Your method should result in the animal losing consciousness immediately.
Step 2- You should then destroy the animal's brain by “pithing” which prevents the animal from regaining consciousness.
Fish and games wording of guidelines states "We highly encourage capture followed by legal euthanization".
You'll be arrested for sure if caught transporting one alive so it must be killed and removed from the area.
These snake can have as many as 100 eggs inside them which in theory could hatch as the deterioration process takes place with a dead snake.
Being most hunters are challenged by successfully accomplishing a lung shot on a deer let alone a heart shot, Fish and Game knows this and is well aware you're not likely to be capable of a brain shot on a snake.
No brain shot, no ethical kill, animal cruelty charges apply.
You can go out and take pot-shots at snakes all you want but it'd just be for your own jollies being they will disappear on you in a flash if not rendered unconscious with the first shot.
Then you've not removed the potentially egg filled snake from the environment and done no one any favors.
What this tells me is Florida F&G is as goofy as PGC.
Sure, we can talk optimum, and the slim possibility it's a female snake, she has eggs, the eggs are viable, and the stars will align for them to hatch.
Weigh that against someone like myself who is not gonna play with a big snake. Is not gonna surgically kill one, so is either going to club it, chop it, or shoot it.
NO, NO NO!!
OK, so I just let it go?
Fugg that!
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
There is an ethical and legal obligation to ensure nonnative reptiles are killed in a humane manner.
The standard anti-cruelty law is required to be followed, it's the only law enforced when hunting these snakes.
To follow the law it's a two step process.
Step 1- Your method should result in the animal losing consciousness immediately.
Step 2- You should then destroy the animal's brain by “pithing” which prevents the animal from regaining consciousness.
Fish and games wording of guidelines states "We highly encourage capture followed by legal euthanization".
You'll be arrested for sure if caught transporting one alive so it must be killed and removed from the area.
These snake can have as many as 100 eggs inside them which in theory could hatch as the deterioration process takes place with a dead snake.
Being most hunters are challenged by successfully accomplishing a lung shot on a deer let alone a heart shot, Fish and Game knows this and is well aware you're not likely to be capable of a brain shot on a snake.
No brain shot, no ethical kill, animal cruelty charges apply.
You can go out and take pot-shots at snakes all you want but it'd just be for your own jollies being they will disappear on you in a flash if not rendered unconscious with the first shot.
Then you've not removed the potentially egg filled snake from the environment and done no one any favors.
What this tells me is Florida F&G is as goofy as PGC.
Sure, we can talk optimum, and the slim possibility it's a female snake, she has eggs, the eggs are viable, and the stars will align for them to hatch.
Weigh that against someone like myself who is not gonna play with a big snake. Is not gonna surgically kill one, so is either going to club it, chop it, or shoot it.
NO, NO NO!!
OK, so I just let it go?
Fugg that!
A 12 gauge to the head should cover most of the important parts of the brain rendering it incapacitated instantly and no snake wrestling involved.
Biggest Rock I've seen. Lucy is a reticulated python. Don't think I've seen one come out of the wilds in Florida. Only burmese. No green or yellow anaconda's either. Only Burmese which like iguana's are very very prolific!!! The, eh " ladies " are " posing " with a yellow headed retic.....................Whew
So the eggs hatch inside a dead mama. Sounds incredulous right there. Then what? Eat their way out? Head for the exit, or entrance?
And humanly “euthanized”. Got to be a “can’t we just live with the predators” behind that. Immediately unconscious? Who’s kidding who? “Yessir I blowed that head right off. Second shot in the middle was a accident”. Somehow it comes to me that there’s probly a lot of bayou boys practicing 1/3 of SSS.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
Biggest Rock I've seen. Lucy is a reticulated python. Don't think I've seen one come out of the wilds in Florida. Only burmese. No green or yellow anaconda's either. Only Burmese which like iguana's are very very prolific!!! The, eh " ladies " are " posing " with a yellow headed retic.....................Whew
Being the invasive snakes population supposedly got its start in the Glades due to released pets and Pythons are the most popular pet snake it's not surprising it's the most common found.
We have captured a mixed bag of species, mostly through tips from observers that spot them in the canals along US 41 in the Glades. We've collected a few Anaconda's.
Park Service makes themselves pretty unavailable so people just stop in and inform us of their sightings.
These snakes along the road could easily have been very recently released by their owners.
The Burmese Python may be far more prolific due to the adult snake staying with it's eggs until hatched.
Not many snakes do this.
Egg predation with snakes runs much like the Alligators, it's about their only enemy.
Racoons, Possums, and a host of other varmints feast on their eggs. Fire Ants are a huge predator of eggs, they're vicious.
Both the Gators and Snakes lay their eggs on high ground, the rise and fall of water levels due to storms cause these ants to move to these higher locations and they find the eggs.
They create rafts on the floods that can consist of thousands of ants.
That many ants making landfall on a nest of eggs will make short work of destroying every egg in the nest.
Idunno is the Pythons staying with their eggs make them less vulnerable to the Fire Ants but it sure as hell helps with keeping other small animals from attacking their eggs.
This could be a major factor with the Pythons being King of the Glades, they care for their young.
So the eggs hatch inside a dead mama. Sounds incredulous right there. Then what? Eat their way out? Head for the exit, or entrance?
The theory is the heat generated by the snakes decomposing could keep the eggs warm enough to survive until the body completely decomposes, then the eggs could hatch.
But considering the Fire Ants are sure to attack the decomposing body, consuming both the flesh and eggs it's doubly doubtful.
I pulled the entire idea outta my azz while composing the post, you know, writer enhancement. Congratulations on your reader comprehension skills, it's rare in these parts. The whole theory is total bullschit, people will believe anything.
Originally Posted by shootem
And humanly “euthanized”. Got to be a “can’t we just live with the predators” behind that.
Of Course!
The State sponsored 'Florida Python Challenge offers a $10,000.00 reward for the most snakes captured.
You bet they were attack by the Greenies and Barkeaters alike. They swarmed them like Fire Ants, State funds for killing innocent snakes?
And that was the origin of that rule, otherwise nobuddy of given a schit.
Originally Posted by shootem
Immediately unconscious? Who’s kidding who? “Yessir I blowed that head right off. Second shot in the middle was a accident”. Somehow it comes to me that there’s probly a lot of bayou boys practicing 1/3 of SSS.
And they do, just not during the Python Challenge event.
Check out the link, see if you can pass the quiz to qualify to go after the $10,000.00.
Liked the site but couldn’t find the quiz. No matter, I’d qualify as an amateur observer probably cause I care nothing at all about wandering the Everglades at night. And yes, I saw where the 3 step euthanasia boogie came from. Amazing how a large number of ignorant people with loud voices can overcome logical actions. I’ll try to get the training course up later. Sounds fun.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
I've wandered the Everglades and other flood prone Florida coastal regions at night.
There have been times it was by choice and times it was scrambling to secure valuables during late night storm surges.
I've never encountered a snake during those times but I have ran into the rafts if Fire Ants.
I think I'd rather it been snakes, a couple thousand Fire Ants scrambling up your legs in the dark, biting the crap outta you before you even knew they were there is far worse than wrestling a non venomous reptile in the dark.
Just a tip i n case ya ever change your mind and decide to wander around Florida.
Biggest Rock I've seen. Lucy is a reticulated python. Don't think I've seen one come out of the wilds in Florida. Only burmese. No green or yellow anaconda's either. Only Burmese which like iguana's are very very prolific!!! The, eh " ladies " are " posing " with a yellow headed retic.....................Whew
Being the invasive snakes population supposedly got its start in the Glades due to released pets and Pythons are the most popular pet snake it's not surprising it's the most common found.
We have captured a mixed bag of species, mostly through tips from observers that spot them in the canals along US 41 in the Glades. We've collected a few Anaconda's.
Park Service makes themselves pretty unavailable so people just stop in and inform us of their sightings.
These snakes along the road could easily have been very recently released by their owners.
The Burmese Python may be far more prolific due to the adult snake staying with it's eggs until hatched.
Not many snakes do this.
Egg predation with snakes runs much like the Alligators, it's about their only enemy.
Racoons, Possums, and a host of other varmints feast on their eggs. Fire Ants are a huge predator of eggs, they're vicious.
Both the Gators and Snakes lay their eggs on high ground, the rise and fall of water levels due to storms cause these ants to move to these higher locations and they find the eggs.
They create rafts on the floods that can consist of thousands of ants.
That many ants making landfall on a nest of eggs will make short work of destroying every egg in the nest.
Idunno is the Pythons staying with their eggs make them less vulnerable to the Fire Ants but it sure as hell helps with keeping other small animals from attacking their eggs.
This could be a major factor with the Pythons being King of the Glades, they care for their young.
I bumped into one of those rafts of fire ants while running trot lines, it was not fun.
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Actually Jeff I will probably be roaming north FL a little sometime this summer. Moving somewhere in the Yulee, Callahan, MacClenny, Nocatee areas as soon as we find the right place. Dang housing prices around there are crazy but daughter and new grandson are there so away we go.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
If you could stretch your search area to the west as far as Lake City, you'll find a considerable price differance in real-estate and a refreshing landscape change.
At 60 miles away from Jax it gets you out of daily babysitting detail but you can be there in right at an hour with a direct shot interstate route.
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