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Got an 8ga barrel blank being made now, will be here end of the week.Found this info on plastic 8ga kiln gun loads, they load a frangible 710gr slug at 2300- for 8300ft lbs, load 1275gr hard slug to 1700, 8100 ft lbs. We will outdo those easy with our non-shotgun powder loads, in a heavy barrel.Ed
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My barrel isn't strong enough! It even has some rub marks from the barrel band on the fore end! My trap loads are just about all I want to put through it. hubel458: Did you ever hear about a universal headspace gauge?? I saw one here: http://www.manthei-mess-systeme.com/gb_headspace_gauge.htm
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Come to think of it ... "One size fits all" wouldn't work.. too many case dimensions in front of the shoulder and no precise measurements from rim to shoulder!! If it's to good to be true......
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Tested 35" smooth barrel in 1887. Got couple 1 oz foster slugs over 2400, with 110gr of 4227. 3" plastic case, regular primers. This is a heavy barrel for that type of load, don't do this in your 12ga skinny barrels. The 28GA FH cases on the way.Chambering bolt gun for it now..Ed
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The three From Hell cartridges---- My 28GA FH, 2nd Our 12GA FH, can you guess the 3rd?. What do readers think. Ed OK. I'll take a stab at it. [bleep] Huge? Am I close?
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They are huge and the 8 will be interesting fun and recoil. In the 87 long smooth barrel got 1 oz Brenneke to 2400 with 110gr of 4227, You could use 4759 and VV110 also at lesser amounts. Barrel is cylinder bore size. Brenneke slugs need no wads as the locked on wad works good.Ed
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In the long barrel 87 got 600 grain Dixie over 2000, got a Buckhammer slug I took out of factory load over 1900. Buckhammer and locked on wad is 630 gr. Tested in 3" plastic cases.
The firing pin on the 87 didn't protude out like I like them to as it comes from factory, so I removed .015 from the hammer stop. It fires big and small primers perfect.Ed
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10GA FH..a NEF 10ga, medium to heavy wt smooth barrel. 28" long, gun weighted to 14lbs. factory FED 765gr loads are 1300 fps. 200 gr of first powder tested is 7383 surplus and the regular shotgun primers got 765 gr to 1600, for 4300 ft lbs. Case won't hold anymore 7383. We will test 4227 with the same slug , and saboted slug of some design. The 765 gr Fed slug is hollowbase for smooth bores. Roll crimped with crimper in drill press. Case expansion with 7383 very little(.006") like the factory loads. 3.5" plastic cases.Ed
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In 10GA NEF 110gr 4227 got 765gr slug to 1800, ejected ok. If it was a really heavy barrel it could do more.Using the 7383 surplus at 150 gr, don't even have to resize to fire 3 times. The 28GA FH done and testing in next couple weeks.Ed
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Have you shot anything with these yet? I want to see what kind of hole they make!
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Nothing live yet. Was going to do deer season, but couldn't find time away from business, due to family illness. I've disintigrated a 6 gal pail of water shown earlier on thread. And shot a big bundle of hardwood apart that I used for first backstop. Working on another now.Ed
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Fired 28GA FH-- Cases extract easy.--It is in bolt action Enfield. With 550gr jkt slug, full load 150 gr of WC-860, got 1900 fps. This will be slowest load and powder. In picture is 3.25" brass 28ga cases, regular 28ga plastic case, jkt slugs, a 458Win for comparison.Regular cases work also.Ed
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28ga cases are made by Rocky Mtn Cartridge, Barrel is rifled with 4 grooves, 1-22 twist. You could do one on Savage 210.Another shotgun bolt action that would handle it with little work, heavy barrel, is the 395-495-595-695 bolt action Mossberg. Just show that 28GA FH isn't puny, here is picture of it next to a 505 Gibbs.Ed
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28ga cases are made by Rocky Mtn Cartridge, Barrel is rifled with 4 grooves, 1-22 twist. You could do one on Savage 210.Another shotgun bolt action that would handle it with little work, heavy barrel, is the 395-495-595-695 bolt action Mossberg. Just show that 28GA FH isn't puny, here is picture of it next to a 505 Gibbs.Ed
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Here is picture and info on Royal Arms' site for hopped up 12ga loads, used in little cannons for bomb work. Anyone got any of these fired that I could inspect to see how they are built.ED http://www.royalarms.com/EOD/ammo/canonammo.gif
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I like the Savage 210 so I'm putting a 700 barrel on one and chambering for my 700H 3.25 case. Working on it now. Should get the same energy levels as the 12GA From Hell case in same action. In pic is 700H case in the action. Ed
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28GA FH research. Guy on forums suggested using 54cal rifled barrels for 28ga as they are easy to get. I looked into it and did some testing. It is ok as long as you keep bullet about 400gr as most 54cal barrels are not super alloy. You got to use the thick heavy ones also, being stronger. And everyone with 28ga wants slugs and there is no slug loads from factory, and to reload the heavier bullets we shouldn't use these barrels or regular 28ga barrels with 600-700 gr slugs. But there are couple dozen 54cal bullets out there stocked all over the gunstore shelves, in weights from 300 to 450 gr. There are heavier but for 28GA FH on deer 400gr is great. I tested the 405 gr copper plated Powerbelt brand, with velocities from 2300 to 2800 plus fps. That's 6500 ft lbs. The 54cal slugs load tight in the RMC 3.25" 28ga case fine by sizing top a little tighter. Bullet obturates to fit .550 bore as bullet is hitting target straight. A lot of 54cal barrels go from 530 to 560. 54cal slugs range from .534 to .560" There are different sizes of 28ga barrels and chokes, so some where there is lighter 54cal slug that fits.. And with light slugs the pressure limits with the MRC brass match top muzzle loading pressures, so these barrels will work. And great thing is the 54cal barrel guys ain't allergic to making long barrels. I've shot one MRC case 15 times and still going strong...Ed
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28GA FH testing. 405 gr in 2.75" plastic case got 1400. Tested the Great Plains 54cal lubed slug, runs from 2200 to 2700. It is by Hornady and its front band actually measures .550" and hollowbase. They hit target straight. Got a bunch of 415gr hollowbase coming that are 548" from Dixie Gunworks. Only 26 cents each. All will work in plastic or long brass case. I found another .550 bbl and coming, and it will go on a Mossberg bolt action for the second 28GA FH to test.. Ed
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you really need to finsh one of these, get it set all up, then shoot a bunch and post pics. quit messing around, ed!
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im still waiting on video of one used in the killin' of a 55 gal rubbermaid garbage can filled with water
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