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What is the best penetrating 9mm ammo?
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In what? Game or car doors?
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Mackay's hardcast sold here!
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Lehigh Extreme Penetrator. Loaded by Underwood.
I load the Extreme Defense for my needs.
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147gr flat point hardcast by far.
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In what? Game or car doors? Car doors and other common barriers. I should have said that. I allways understood that 147 fnfmj were the best but alot of new bullets out there. So I asked to get up to date info..mb
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Lehigh Extreme Penetrator. Loaded by Underwood.
I load the Extreme Defense for my needs. Great stuff, those....
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Mackay's hardcast sold here! This would be my choice
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Mackay's hardcast sold here! This would be my choice My choice also. I shot one into 20% ballistic gel (not 10%) and it penetrated 22." Which would be about 36.75" in 10 % gel
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I don’t know about car doors. But a 135gr SWC cast of clip on wheel weight and driven around 1050fps will shoot through a full grown cancer eye cow’s head and into the neck. Pretty big critter for a little pipsqueak 9mm that Jeff Cooper always told us wasn’t big enough for anything but dump rats.
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Mackay's hardcast sold here! This would be my choice My choice also. I shot one into 20% ballistic gel (not 10%) and it penetrated 22." Which would be about 36.75" in 10 % gel That load punches through sheet metal pretty darn easily as we have discovered. Same with cow heads, wood, ballistic gel, and various intermediate barriers. When the riots were happening a while back and various groups were being mostly peaceful and dragging individuals out of their cars, shooting them, running people over, using a car as a weapon and various other methods of attacks against innocent people, I swapped out all my JHPs for heavy+P hard cast 9mms. They were a better choice for all around trail and defense use in my opinion. Since we are about to enter another major and important national election, I expect that we will see more of this. I will definitely be carrying the heavy hardcast as my primary loads.
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Nice Gerber knife. I have 2 of them I bought new when they first came out.
I've always liked the Remington Gold Saber bonded rounds, but sounds like I need to consider a hard cast for my 9's and 38's. I have plenty of hard cast in 45acp, but nothing in the others.
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Heavy hard cast bullets would be the best for penetration. Phil Shoemaker killed a brown bear with 9mm 147 grain hard cast loads and I believe they came from Buffalo Bore.
Mackay Sagebrush sells similar loads here on the campfire.
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Just asking but has anyone tested the 120 gr TC against the 140-147 gr cast bullet for penetration. I have both but have never put them side by side for a test. Guess it would depend on the medium?
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Just asking but has anyone tested the 120 gr TC against the 140-147 gr cast bullet for penetration. I have both but have never put them side by side for a test. Guess it would depend on the medium?
Dick Good question, has anyone tested M1152? It has high velocity which should mean greater penetration with non-deforming bullet. You know, sort of why Germans used anti-aircraft guns against heavy russian tanks. I have some Italian Fiocchi 123gr FMJTC loads with claimed velocity of 1270fps. I wonder if that was obtained using long carbine test barrel? To answer original question it would depending on caliber be 7n21 or 7n29. This type of ammo is only available to special operations military, internal security and police units.
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What is your actual point??
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Nice Gerber knife. I have 2 of them I bought new when they first came out.
I've always liked the Remington Gold Saber bonded rounds, but sounds like I need to consider a hard cast for my 9's and 38's. I have plenty of hard cast in 45acp, but nothing in the others. Yep those old 80s and 90s Gerbers were excellent American made knives and used very good steel. The one in the pic is very lightweight, and keeps a great edge. I use it quite often as a daily general use knife. I believe these were called their "Bolt Action folder". They are sort of sought after by some people. Me, I just use it for anything and everything.
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What is your actual point?? Slavek/Maser just says stupid stuff to see if he can any sort of reply. Any reply. He gets off on it. He goes to Wiki/Google, gets some info, and posts whatever, just to get a response. Maser/Slavek/Cardenas literally has about as much actual firearms experience as most here do being a space shuttle pilot on moon flights. He only wants reactions, that is why the majority of us just skip over his posts, the same as we step around dog schidt on the sidewalk.
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