24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
Chase Iliver rings all the bad bells. Trans rights, they are somehow special to Oliver. He is the Libertarian pick to run for president in 2024

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...ver-last-week-tonight-recap-trans-rights

“It is pretty remarkable that a trans athlete could theoretically compete in the Olympics but not in South Dakota under-12 soccer, a sport that genuinely only exists to obliterate parents’ weekends,” Oliver quipped.

In other words, the conversations around anti-trans laws involve “massively overheated rhetoric that does not match the reality of kids’ actual situations”, said Oliver.

He pointed to Christopher Rufo, one of the rightwing scholars who helped poison critical race theory from an academic concept to a winning culture war issue for Republicans, and has since shifted to targeting trans people and specifically how transgender people are discussed in schools. “Say what you want about Chris Rufo – like, for instance, that he’s a fear-mongering troll who looks like what would happen if someone made the recipe for Ryan Gosling but forgot to add the hotness – he’s very deliberate in how he tries to influence public opinion,” said Oliver.

Rufo has suggested branding the discussion of trans issues as “radical gender theory”, and tweeted that drag queens should be referred to as “trans strippers” because it’s more “lurid” and has a “sexual connotation” – part of the conservative strategy of linking transgender issues with sexual predation or social contagion.

Oliver tore into Rufo’s fearmongering about minors exploring their gender identity. “To the extent that some young people are just exploring their gender identity, how exactly is that a bad thing?” he fumed. “Who the [bleep] are they hurting?

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]citizens bank locations near me

He is also for open borders.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

He is very proud his group of idiots forced the runoff that got Warnock elected to Georgia senate.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Last edited by rickt300; 05/29/23.

Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



GB1

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/11/georgia-senate-race-chase-oliver-profile

On election night, Oliver watched from home with friends, picking over chicken wings when he wasn’t exchanging texts with his campaign team. Beforehand, he had been polling at about 5%; anything above 2% figured to spark a runoff, given how close the race was between Warnock and Walker already. When Oliver settled just above 2% and stayed there and neither frontrunner retained more than a 50% + 1 vote share, the minimum standard for victory, Oliver celebrated the coming runoff – which he says he caused partly to prove the need for ranked-choice voting across the country. “That’s the real lesson I want people to learn,” he says. “Whether you voted for Raphael Warnock or Herschel Walker or me, we wouldn’t have to wait weeks later to see who’s going to Washington DC if we passed something common sense like ranked-choice voting.”

Oliver makes no effort to hide his healthy contempt for the current two-party system. But he wasn’t always so disillusioned. As an out teenager in a state where laws against sodomy were aggressively enforced until the state supreme court invalidated them in 2003, Oliver launched his high school’s gay-straight alliance. Oliver remembers screening Brokeback Mountain when it opened in 2005 and being so moved that he dragged his straight friends to the theater to see it the very next week. He thought, “This is what’s gonna get all my friends to understand the struggle,” he says. “But they did not have the same experience. They were like, ‘It was a good movie, but you kinda oversold it.’”
A driver drops off multiple early-voting ballots into a drop box in Maricopa county on 3 November 2022.
Why is the midterm vote count taking so long in some US states?
Read more

He gravitated toward the Democratic party because of Barack Obama, inspired by promises to bring home the troops, close Guantánamo and draw down the US’s drone-strike program. But as Obama betrayed those promises, Oliver decamped for the Libertarians – a 50-year-old party that’s more culturally liberal than Democrats and fiscally conservative than Republicans and the third-largest political party by voter registration. Oliver’s platform runs from immigration reform to world peace. But it’s government dysfunction that really animates him. “There’s no real legislating going on,” he says. “What we’re seeing now is leadership drafting a bill behind closed doors with giant corporate interests.


Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 79,321
Likes: 2
B
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
B
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 79,321
Likes: 2
There's always been a leftist element that masquerades as Libertarians. The Ron Paul Libertarians left a long time ago and established the anti RINO right.

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 34,361
Likes: 10
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 34,361
Likes: 10
Libertarian candidates have always been funded by Democrat and Liberal donors. They were paid spoilers.

Don’t hear to much about theses POS anymore as the Democrat regime has found other ways to cheat without funding these as f*cks.


Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,488
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,488
Tbe Libertarian Party that began to rise in the 90s is no more. It has been infiltrated and co-opted by hedonists and libertines who are by nature leftists. It has become just another institution whose name means the exact opposite of what it really is.


Don't be the darkness.

America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.


IC B2

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by steve4102
Libertarian candidates have always been funded by Democrat and Liberal donors. They were paid spoilers.

Don’t hear to much about theses POS anymore as the Democrat regime has found other ways to cheat without funding these as f*cks.

Those Fcks cost us senators in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin. And they brag about it, we needed those senators.

https://www.vox.com/21561230/libertarian-party-third-party-2020-election

Last edited by rickt300; 05/29/23.

Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 8,647
Likes: 1
A
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
A
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 8,647
Likes: 1
Don’t let them Fool You ..

It’s a Distinct without a Difference..

Their all Do’n the Freaky Dekkie ..

In the Peanut Butter..

Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 10,183
Likes: 6
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 10,183
Likes: 6
He's a paid pawn to siphon off votes from Republicans.

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by reivertom
He's a paid pawn to siphon off votes from Republicans.

Not really if you notice their focus looks pretty progressive socialist to me.


Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,037
Likes: 28
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,037
Likes: 28
Libertarians and independents for the most part are cherry picker voters from both sides of the fence.
Mainly what is gonna benefit them Benjamin wise.
They will gladly sacrifice rights as long as it don't affect their wallet or purse....

Then ya look at one,s from " both" that are elected.
They side with Liberal Socialist Democrats 99% of the time.

That's all you need to know about the vast majority of their voters and the people they elect...

Last edited by renegade50; 05/29/23.
IC B3

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 21,973
Likes: 14
C
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
C
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 21,973
Likes: 14
Good read... a bit complex...

Confusing and weaponizing Libertarians.

https://mises.org/wire/antonio-gramsci-greatest-political-strategist-history


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 5,343
Likes: 26
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 5,343
Likes: 26
I've never had much use for Lolbertarianism, to put it mildly.

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 15,785
Likes: 3
M
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
M
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 15,785
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by steve4102
Libertarian candidates have always been funded by Democrat and Liberal donors. They were paid spoilers.

Don’t hear to much about theses POS anymore as the Democrat regime has found other ways to cheat without funding these as f*cks.

Those Fcks cost us senators in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin. And they brag about it, we needed those senators.

https://www.vox.com/21561230/libertarian-party-third-party-2020-election

"We" needed those senators so, what, the republicans could continue NOT enforcing laws or draining the swap? Or so we could maintain the status quo of "look over there while we behave exactly like democrats"?

Or their lack of handling COVID right, or their money laundering, or their lack of support for trump, or their support for gun control, or their Chinese ass kissing or their war profiteering...?

How about when they had control and did literally NOTHING.

Yeah. "We" need more of those on our team. For sure. Lol

Last edited by mjbgalt; 05/29/23.
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by renegade50
Libertarians and independents for the most part are cherry picker voters from both sides of the fence.
Mainly what is gonna benefit them Benjamin wise.
They will gladly sacrifice rights as long as it don't affect their wallet or purse....

Then ya look at one,s from " both" that are elected.
They side with Liberal Socialist Democrats 99% of the time.

That's all you need to know about the vast majority of their voters and the people they elect...

That would be the leftist jerk crowd.


Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 539
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 539
Have you ever noticed the drag queens look allot like the wives in Goodfellas?


2 Kings 2:23-24
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,488
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,488
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by steve4102
Libertarian candidates have always been funded by Democrat and Liberal donors. They were paid spoilers.

Don’t hear to much about theses POS anymore as the Democrat regime has found other ways to cheat without funding these as f*cks.

Those Fcks cost us senators in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin. And they brag about it, we needed those senators.

https://www.vox.com/21561230/libertarian-party-third-party-2020-election

"We" needed those senators so, what, the republicans could continue NOT enforcing laws or draining the swap? Or so we could maintain the status quo of "look over there while we behave exactly like democrats"?

Or their lack of handling COVID right, or their money laundering, or their lack of support for trump, or their support for gun control, or their Chinese ass kissing or their war profiteering...?

How about when they had control and did literally NOTHING.

Yeah. "We" need more of those on our team. For sure. Lol

What you fail to grasp is the fact that we have a two-party system and we are not likely to be able to change that. You (just like the rest of us) are stuck with a choice: either let the marxist dihmmicrats win by default, or support and fight from within the republican party to reform it. The Libertarian Party is, always was, and will remain a joke.

Of course, you can retain and maintain your self-righteous purity and continue to condemn the republicans while allowing the marxists to screw the country...which seems to be the easy way to salve your conscience while putting forth NO effort.


Don't be the darkness.

America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.


Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 14,777
Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 14,777
Likes: 5
Libertine, not libertarian.

Oliver is a phag. There is no such thing as a conservative homosexual.


Politics is War by Other Means
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 539
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 539
The reality is that if you don't live in a purple state or in a state that is on the cusp of flipping then your vote does not count in the presidential election. If everyone who is republican living in a blue state or democrat living in a red state voted third party then it would put the fear of God into the 2 parties but the reality is that everyone would rather waste their vote.


2 Kings 2:23-24
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 64
B
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
B
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 64
Libertarians are very much live and let live. To the extent that transgendered people don't harm other people, Libertarians aren't going to legislate that. If you feel that legislating what other people do with their lives that doesn't impact other people is important to you, I would kindly suggest one of the two main parties.


“To give anything less than the best is to sacrifice the gift.” -Steve Prefontaine

Matthew 25:31-46
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,498
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by steve4102
Libertarian candidates have always been funded by Democrat and Liberal donors. They were paid spoilers.

Don’t hear to much about theses POS anymore as the Democrat regime has found other ways to cheat without funding these as f*cks.

Those Fcks cost us senators in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin. And they brag about it, we needed those senators.

https://www.vox.com/21561230/libertarian-party-third-party-2020-election

"We" needed those senators so, what, the republicans could continue NOT enforcing laws or draining the swap? Or so we could maintain the status quo of "look over there while we behave exactly like democrats"?

Or their lack of handling COVID right, or their money laundering, or their lack of support for trump, or their support for gun control, or their Chinese ass kissing or their war profiteering...?

How about when they had control and did literally NOTHING.

Yeah. "We" need more of those on our team. For sure. Lol

Wow you surely can miss the point. Without a majority in both houses no party can enforce laws not enforced by the majority. To drain the swamp Will require all three, the House, the Senate and the presidency. If you think Trump actually had the power to drain the swamp by himself that must be some awesome whiskey you are drinking. As for not handling Covid right how do you figure? The CDC and the WHO directed that. Thank Fauci. Lack of support for Trump? That directly points to the fact that our two party system is corrupt. The swamp is in control. When you shout out money laundering and supporting gun control can you say the Swamp establishment is in control. You seem to miss the part that during Trump's presidency when the Republicans actually had control the Russia Hoax kept Trump from doing many things including removing worthless people from the DOJ, also that he had no idea who the good and bad were already in office. You know such as Barr,Sessions,Wray. You might remember how hard it was to remove Comey and the outcry that caused. Right now would be a great time to have those three senators as they could help greatly with this debt ceiling issue. This Myopic view of events you seem to possess is why we are in this condition in the first place. The reality is nothing will change until WE go to DC and offer to hang everybody wearing a tie, then give them a sample of our intent. Or 5.


Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

461 members (3040Krag, 06hunter59, 12344mag, 219 Wasp, 2ndwind, 1badf350, 48 invisible), 1,779 guests, and 1,240 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,037
Posts18,521,005
Members74,023
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.087s Queries: 55 (0.031s) Memory: 0.9308 MB (Peak: 1.0523 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-18 18:55:44 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS