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Which one and why? Whitetail, mule deer, pronghorn and elk within 450-500 yards. Don’t currently have a 6.8, have other 300s. Going to buy a new rifle in one or the other. Also not giving any concern to factory ammo availability. Thanks!
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Which ever floats your boat.
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Neither. But how did you arrive in such a choice between only those two?
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Neither. But how did you arrive in such a choice between only those two? I’m going to buy a model 70, I already have a 300 but wouldn’t be the same model, and I’ve been interested in the 6.8 for a while, owned a 6.8 XPR for a while and got offered a good profit before I ever hunted with it.
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Neither. But how did you arrive in such a choice between only those two? Yes, this is a great question. How did you end up here? 300 Win Mag seems like an oddball with pronghorn in the list. 7mm PRC perhaps would be the better choice. Or even 7mm Remington Magnum. Or 280AI. Or just regular old 280 REM.
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I’m willing to bet that a 300 will kill a prairie goat or anything else you might want to shoot with it. Edk
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I own 2 of both. I would go 6.8W given the excellent ballistics with significantly less recoil. Both of my 6.8W (One a rebarrelled / restocked 70 7mm wsm, the other a browing Xbolt SR) are superbly accurate.
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I own 2 of both. I would go 6.8W given the excellent ballistics with significantly less recoil. Both of my 6.8W (One a rebarrelled / restocked 70 7mm wsm, the other a browing Xbolt SR) are superbly accurate.
Lou Thank you, I’ve also been thinking about one of those X bolt SR’s.
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Between those two, I would pick the 6.8, partly for the novelty, also for the lighter recoil. I’d also secure a good supply of brass because I expect it to fail in the market eventually and having brass keeps that from becoming an issue.
Actually, I would have a lightish fast-twist .270 WCF built so I could use the new pointy bullets if I wanted. 150gr ABs can be driven at least 3000fps with RL26, plenty for the OP’s intended use, but the heavies might come in handy sometime. I have a good .270 now, but it’s pretty heavy for an old fat man to tote very far.
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Skip both and go with the 7PRC, that's what I did. High BC bullets beat the WM all day long when distance counts. Don't think the 6.8 W will be available long term once the 7 PRC takes hold. Or, you could simplify life and just get a 7mm RM and forget about it. Good luck!
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No problem with pronghorn on the list we have shot dozens with the .300. It kills them dead.
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What is 7PRC recoil compared to 300wm?
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What is 7PRC recoil compared to 300wm? Less. If you compare 180 grain bullets it's about 150 fps slower than the 300 and burns less powder to boot.
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Neither. But how did you arrive in such a choice between only those two? I’m going to buy a model 70, I already have a 300 but wouldn’t be the same model, and I’ve been interested in the 6.8 for a while, owned a 6.8 XPR for a while and got offered a good profit before I ever hunted with it. Buy the model 70 like you are wanting and get the 6.8, if they chamber one in a model 70. If going 300 magnum, I'd go WSM or WBY over win mag any day of the week and twice on sunday. YMMV.
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Split it? And go with 7 PRC I have a 270 win and 300 win.(ruger #1 safe queen) But If I wanted a dedicated long range hunting rifle, that the route I’d go. Honestly under 500, I can do it with my 270 or 06. Shot placement is the key
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Thanks for all the reply’s so far!
I should say this, I have at least 1 or more rifles in 223, 243, 257 Roberts, 257 weatherby, 6.5 creedmoor, 264 win mag, 270 win, 280 rem, 280ai, 7mm rem mag, 30-30, 308, 30-06 and 300 win mag. All around favorite cartridge for the type of hunting I do most is 257 Roberts. I have no need for another rifle in either cartridge, but who cares about need when you get in the mood for a new rifle? I was just wondering how some of y’all might lean between the 2.
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6.8 was dead before it was introduced..
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Nothing wrong with 6.8 but a 300 wm is a lot more flexible and you can get ammo in bumfook ND.
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No comparison, but 300 wm hands down
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Hell, if you don't really give a rip, then go with the 6.8 and enjoy the journey. Compared to the 6.8 the 300 WM would be boring as hell.
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Neither. But how did you arrive in such a choice between only those two? Yes, this is a great question. How did you end up here? 300 Win Mag seems like an oddball with pronghorn in the list. 7mm PRC perhaps would be the better choice. Or even 7mm Remington Magnum. Or 280AI. Or just regular old 280 REM. Really? 🤔 The .300 WM should be adequate, and if using one cartridge for the game listed…..seems to be a very good, logical choice. Especially so, if factory ammunition is factored in! My wife and I have taken quite a few “Speed Goats” using cartridges a mite larger than the .300 WM……she a .338 WM and myself with a .375 AI. Both cartridges appeared to be adequate for Antelope! 😉 memtb
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.300wm kills goats fine. Do you like old school or skinny jeans?
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6.8 Western seems to mostly be a rebranding of the 270WSM, after the WSM line signally failed to produce (aside from the 270WSM, ironically, which was the best of the bunch next to 325WSM). Seems like the 300WM would be more flexible given the plethora of 110gn to 240gn 308 bullets against the relative dearth of slow-twist 277 bullets, at least right now, unless you're focused on copper monos. Can't see the 6.8 Western being much more than a niche Winchester caliber for a while.
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I’m a big fan of the 300 WM. 168gr TTSX at around 3200 fps makes for a pretty versatile load for the game/ranges mentioned. Only gripe is the M70 magazine being a bit cramped.
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6.8 was dead before it was introduced.. This. It will slowly fade away like the WSSM cartridges and a few others have in recent times. Finding ammo and brass will be challenging. Go 7 PRC or 300 Winny.
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6.8 was dead before it was introduced.. This. It will slowly fade away like the WSSM cartridges and a few others have in recent times. Finding ammo and brass will be challenging. Go 7 PRC or 300 Winny. Im sure you are correct, but I bought a 6.8 this past weekend. I’ll help it out every little bit I can. When I find a 7 PRC I like, I’ll add that to my safe as well.
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On the OP it sounds as if the 300 Win Mag is already in tow so I wouldn’t opt for another unless you dislike your current one. So I’d opt for the .277, however in my case I’d just grab a 270 WCF with .473 bolt and 22” barrel and keep it light. Even with a 1-10 it will slay animals way out there at 400-500 yards. It also makes impressive velocities with a meager 20 or 22-inch barrel. Quite a few really nice Winchester Model 70 rifles out there chambered in 270 WCF. Just a thought.
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Skip both and go with the 7PRC, that's what I did. High BC bullets beat the WM all day long when distance counts. Don't think the 6.8 W will be available long term once the 7 PRC takes hold. Or, you could simplify life and just get a 7mm RM and forget about it. Good luck! I’m betting the 7PRC goes to an early grave along with the 6.8W joining some of its WSM sisters.
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300 WM, don't care much about any new caliber offerings, will stick with what I grew up with.
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Skip both and go with the 7PRC, that's what I did. High BC bullets beat the WM all day long when distance counts. Don't think the 6.8 W will be available long term once the 7 PRC takes hold. Or, you could simplify life and just get a 7mm RM and forget about it. Good luck! I’m betting the 7PRC goes to an early grave along with the 6.8W joining some of its WSM sisters. With Hornady’s marketing, I doubt it. May not be a barn burner, but it’s here to stay a while.
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I thought that the 6.8 was comparable to a 30 30 with better bullets. Am I mistaken?
I would consider getting a light 308 which would complement your 300 mag nicely and kill anything in NA. Shoot lighter x bullets bullets for elk and big bears.
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I just don’t see either one as the end of all. The 6,8 is on a path to a grave and the 300 is good but way too much recoil. I just bought a Bergara carbon Ridge in 308, weighs 6.3 lbs and with 20” barrels is the cats meow. It will do anything that needs to be done here in NA, that and my Tikka 708 meets my needs.
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In my area the 6.8 is all but dead. A couple gun stores put a few Winchester FWs in that cartridge on sale and there still on the rack. Factory ammo had limited availability but I suspect as time passes, it'll be gone and very slow to be replaced. I'd take the 300 win mag over any 6.8, prc, or similar cartridges. Ymmv
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I thought that the 6.8 was comparable to a 30 30 with better bullets. Am I mistaken?
I would consider getting a light 308 which would complement your 300 mag nicely and kill anything in NA. Shoot lighter x bullets bullets for elk and big bears. You might be thinking of the 6.8SPC, although the 300BO is a better comparison to the 30-30. The 6.8 Western is basically a reworked 270 WSM designed for heavier bullets. 6.5PRC does what the 6.8 Western does, just more efficiently and with a much better component selection.
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Skip both and go with the 7PRC, that's what I did. High BC bullets beat the WM all day long when distance counts. Don't think the 6.8 W will be available long term once the 7 PRC takes hold. Or, you could simplify life and just get a 7mm RM and forget about it. Good luck! I’m betting the 7PRC goes to an early grave along with the 6.8W joining some of its WSM sisters. I'm betting not! Building one now, it really splits the difference between the 7RM and the 300WM with 175 gr bullets. The RM and WM are excellent but the PRC is better than the RM with heavy bullets and competes with the WM with same high BC bullets and less recoil. Every new cartridge is just a "tweak" of something that's already been done in the last 100+ years (30-06) but little improvements can make a difference if you're into that kind of thing. RM left, PRC right
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Being a huge 270 WCF fan, I would choose a 6.8 Western. -100/110gr bullets for antelope and smaller game -130/140/150gr for deer/elk -155gr and up for bigger game like elk, African plains game etc.
Being a 270 looney, I have studied all the 0.277 cartridges add nauseum and have settled on multiple plain old 270 WCF rifles. - 1:8 twist for the newer long heavy bullets that are available. - Lighter weight 270 for 100/110gr bullets on lighter game. - A bunch of standard 270's for tried and true historical 130/140/150gr bullets.
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Elk in the picture? 300 Win
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I’m sure any of the new 6.8s and PRCs will do fine for those who like compromises. YMMV
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I’m sure any of the new 6.8s and PRCs will do fine for those who like compromises. YMMV Interesting thought process
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Well, you don’t get improved performance simply with shorter actions, heavier bullets, and less velocity. Such nonsense is but the dung of horses. If you are after large elk, a .300 Weatherby is just the ticket. For deer, not so much…
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It's never been difficult to cypher who shoots and who don't. Hint.
Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than headstamps ladies and the 300 Wannabee...pisses up all ropes. Hint.
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If you are a dink-killer like some on here…. Meh, it doesn’t matter.
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Neither the 7PRC nor the 300PRC are short-action cartridges. 215 Bergers at 2950 in a 300WM (or a 300PRC) is an adequate counter-argument against the "no extra performance from heavier bullets", maybe.
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Pass the 7 Whizzum and .796 BC 180’s at 2900fps,while BUM droolingly tries to correlate headstamps to B&C. Hint.
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Considering the others you have, the choice doesn’t matter. Get the one you want. You don’t need either one. It’s just for fun and it’s YOUR fun. Enjoy it.
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Build a wildcat. .277x300 would fit the bill.
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Thanks for all the reply’s so far!
I should say this, I have at least 1 or more rifles in 223, 243, 257 Roberts, 257 weatherby, 6.5 creedmoor, 264 win mag, 270 win, 280 rem, 280ai, 7mm rem mag, 30-30, 308, 30-06 and 300 win mag. All around favorite cartridge for the type of hunting I do most is 257 Roberts. I have no need for another rifle in either cartridge, but who cares about need when you get in the mood for a new rifle? I was just wondering how some of y’all might lean between the 2. Great post. And we can’t use that 4 letter word, NEED…! This is the Fire after all, a great enabling site. DF
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