Home Forums Reloading Varmint Rifles You ole farts ? Remember 'Herters brass'

My recent aqquiring of a Savage 222 Rem mag dog set up

Shilen (no turn neck) 12T barrel w/short throat

Brass included of course Rem stamped

Along with Herters & Sako brass

Do ya all remember Herters products ?

pic.....222 mag Savage/Shilen hidden behind Sham Wow

Isn't Herters rebranded win?

Dunno

Jury is out

I have 100 cases of Herter’s 222 Mag brass I found in a local shop.

Was buying a case of Herters 20 ga target loads at Bass pro and the guy working in the gun dept said it's just rebadged winchester not sure he knew what he was talking about.... need to take the gun shop talk with a grain of salt!

I think the old Herters ammo and brass was Norma. I doubt Winchester or the current “Herters” is offering 222 Mag.

The Herter's brass boxes back in the day all said "Made in Sweden". What other cartridge companies than Norma were operating in Sweden in the 50'-70's? It's an assumption that I and about a million other guys made 50 years ago.

And don’t forget that it was all the finest “International Match Grade”.

I came into a half a case or so of 270 International Match Grade Herters loaded with 150gr Banana Peel bullets years ago. It actually shot really well and the Banana Peels worked great on pigs. Dad eventually shot it all up killing pigs and coyotes.

All my 222 Mag brass and ammo says made in Finland.

All the 222s say made in Sweden.

I have a couple of old Herter's catalogs and a lot of their stuff was said to be European made, especially from Germany.

BPS/Cabela's owns the Herter's brand name. The ammo that BPS/Cabela's currently sells under the Herter's brand name is made by Winchester. Their 129 grain 6.5 CM load looks exactly the same as the 129 grain Winchester PP.

Back when Herter's was Herter's the ammo and component brass that I have or have had appeared to be Norma. I have hundreds of pieces of new Herter's brass in the silver and black boxes, mostly 250-3000 and 6.5x55.

Thumbing through an old, mid-1960s vintage, Herter's catalog is a trip down memory lane for me.

Thanks for that update.

As a fellow old fart, I remember Herters well, spent many hours in their “best in the world” catalog. My first loading equipment was Herters. Big ole black cast iron press. Bought a few semi inletted rifle stocks. In general, liked their stuff.

DF

Remember them well. As I recall,my Herters press was brown and it took a Herters specific shell holder. Heavy enough they claimed you could swage bullets with it. Later years, you could buy adapters to take RCBS,etc shell lholders

I tried unsuccessfully tried to order one of their 7MM mag rifles (J1 or J9 ?) and 401 Power mag handguns. I finally bought a Winchester 70 and a Rugger Blackhawk in 44mg.

They had some really good gear and some crappy gear

My brother and I ordered some stuff from them back in the late 60's, and most of what we got was pretty cheaply made, even for that time period.

Yeah, everything wasn't always "best in the world". Some was pretty good as James Jr. noted, some not so good. Buyer beware was then and is now a good rule to follow.

I enjoyed their catalog.

DF

I ordered a few things from Herters in the early 70s. In those days of snail-mail I mostly did business with Cabela's, Dixie Gun Works and Golden Age Arms. I use to drive up to Cabela's when they were located in downtown Sidney NE. Things were all over the place in no real order and they used a standing polar bear mount as a rod rack.

I bought some once fired 9mm brass and I was looking through it and there was a case with a Herters headstamp. I think it was HRTRS or something like that.

I still have some old "Model Perfect" brass.

My first handgun was ordered via. USPS from Herters - it resembled a Hawes single action 357. All that was required was to say I was 18 and a check in the mail.

I had a Herters press. When I could get the RCBS junior press the Herters left due to the difficulty of getting different size bases.

I still have a set of Herters dies - 256 Win Mag.

I never had good luck regarding accuracy with their bullets. They shot so poorly in my meager trials that I never shot them at game. Back then I had 4831, 4350 and 4895 for rifle powders. Bulls Eye, Unique and 2400 for pistol cartridges.

I think this is right, Norma brass was the origional brass. That was my understanding way back then anyway. Boy I'd love to have an old Herter's catalog to look through today! Hate what it might cost though. Think I still have a box of the old Herter's 244 Rem brass somewhere. Just can't bring myself to dump it. Shooting up some 24 cal bullet's in my 243 right now. Got a load not doing bad but after weighing bullet's I really should trash them! Light to heavy just over one grain difference! seems I have 224 cal, 25 cal and a few 30 cal bullet's still also!

I remember the George Herter book, How To Live With A Bitch, advertised in the catalogs. I often wondered what prompted him to give it that title. I just figured he couldn't find a "Model Perfect Woman."