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Yep, I'd keep the current red one Barry!



Our green tractors range from 2002-2010 models, 4-5k hours on each one which is only halfway close to being 'wore' out. I plan on keeping them forever. Well maybe not the newest one....lol



I'd look for a little cream puff like this but of course a trade would be impossible.

https://www.tractorhouse.com/listin...e-6430-premium-100-hp-to-174-hp-tractors

That's a sweet tractor for sure! Wish I could find one local, and with a loader...gotta have a loader.

I figured you'd have the gremlins worked outta that latest one you got by now, Sam.

I'm sure not convinced the new JD's are worth the extra $$ over a competitor's top of the line series tractor. I'll explore all options, but it'd take some pretty good convincing.

From a Deere owner, they’re not.

Unless you’re needing expenses to keep from paying more income taxes I’d hang onto old Red. Especially if there’s nothing really wrong with it.

That might be exactly what I do.

I know there's some things on the horizon I'm going to have to repair or replace, but overall, it's a solid tractor.

What kind of things on the horizon?

Just wondering…

I have bought one new tractor in the 50 plus years that I've been using one. I just can't put a pencil to it and justify the cost. If I farmed thousands of acres, I'd probably feel a lot differently. We barely put a 100 hours a year on the biggest one, a 115 HP NH. The little 45 HP NH gets used at least a couple of times a week, but more piddling jobs than hard work. Prices on the new ones scare me even thinking about them.

The DPF is due to be replaced at any time now. Most have trouble before the hours I have on my tractor, but I use this tractor mostly running 1900 rpm's non stop, all day long, and when the DPF comes on, it does a good job of cleaning.

Those who use their tractors with a DPF for short jobs, on and off in a few minutes... like to run put out a couple of bales of hay, etc., have more clogging, and have to replace it sooner. Dealer told me to replace it is $5k.

There's a couple of other things like the clutch dump can get jumpy at times. That can be a simple computer fix, or breaking the tractor in half to get at the issue. Tractor I have is highly computerized. I don't see that as a necessarily good thing.

I use the power shuttle shift from forward to reverse when I can, and use the clutch as little as possible. That was hard to do at first, since your first inclination is to step on the clutch when reversing directions.

Barry, if I had the money for a new tractor I would probably go with the M series from John Deere.

That or the comparable red version.


I'd stay away from the fancy JD R series.

sometimes newer isn't better-an example is a friend/client had a MFWD 7410 JD he used daily for cattle operation-haying, feeding, etc. Made a little money one year and decided to trade it in on a 7420. Electronics made that tractor a lemon, it was in the shop more than it was home. Before the warranty was up he traded it in on a 7430 and got another good tractor. Says he wishes he kept the 7410

The JD I was looking at is a 5115M. That's the one that is $26k more than the comparable New Holland.

New Holland=Case.... Same=Same.

I want a moderately advanced tractor, but some of the models are just totally crazy with everything being computer operated. Computers are bad Ju-Ju.

Although I am far from being a good mechanic, I prefer to be able to work on my equipment if at all possible. Tractors with computers are something that I can't fix.

Exactly.

Not even a good tractor mechanic can work on them either. It has to be dealer specific.

I’ve got a 60 horse Massey Ferguson, I only have a 100 hours on it but it’s a beast. I’m not sure how big Massey makes their tractors

DPF on a tractor is about the dumbest idea ever.

DPF & DEF are both equally stupid.

My F-350 has both!

When that DPF comes on, your miles per gallon plummet. It runs up hotter and faster when it kicks on. You can watch the mileage dropping by the minute.

EGR valves are the devil's spawn.

What I meant is that it’s even more dummer on a tractor.

Oh, I agree.

Govt mandated. It's gotta have it, per the govt.

BUT the customer pays for it up front. And then when the DPF clogs up, some of those replacement bills can hit over $5k.

If the govt wants you to have it, why don't THEY pay for the DPF, DEF, and any associated repairs?

That’s pretty funny!


Wait, a joke right?

some of the reasons stated on here for the reason of in particular
of emissions upkeep and the electronics on these newer tractors is one reason very nice older machines are bringing very good money people want away from that stuff. I have quite a few green tractors from the old 30 -55 series and then some 00-20 series . the 20 series is already getting too much electronic stuff for myself I try to buy things now at 10 series and older ..

Buy used.jmho