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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Its a shítty deal.....because that is how the kids communicate now.

You can't bow up and tell them to "call" their friends like we used to.


That isn't really a thing anymore....no matter how much we want it to be.

If possible....try and limit it to talk and text. There are parental controls available too.


Cell phones are kind of a necessary evil now.....but Snap Chat, Face Book Instagram and tik tok are not.


Don't let your kid have that shįt.

So how you gonna do that Einstein?

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Most everyone has a phone in their hand. I do as I peck this.

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Thinking that if we could have an honest figure on just how many vehicle crashes are caused by phone distractions it would be scary.


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My kids are 10 and 12. He is addicted to anything with a screen. Caused by my wife putting a tablet in front of him when he was a toddler to keep him occupied at restaurants while waiting for our food. Current status is he can't look at any screen (tv, phone, tablet, video game, etc) without express permission from us, and that permission is pretty infrequent, unless he's done a substantial amount of chores and been outside. Luckily, at this point, he tests off the charts in every standardized test administered to him for reading/math/sciences.

For phones, they both have a Gabb phone, talk and text only (with our access to call logs and the texts from computer/our phones), no picture capabililities, with a GPS locator in it we can track where they're at, not that we don't know exactly where they are at all times anyway. Daughter goes in spurts where she annoys friends and families with stupid texts and then won't touch it for weeks. Son, current status is its turned off and out of his possession or he'd be texting and calling friends all day long.

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I get a gut punch every time I see my grandkids, even when they have their friends with them, not being able to just enjoy each others company. It goes way beyond that too, as has been mentioned.

Day before yesterday I was talking to an Amish man that I am going to have do some work for me. We got that out of the way and I told him I really admire the way they seem to have close knit families. He remarked "we don't have TV or cell phones to distract us". Good point.

One of our nephews held his phone out to me and my wife and remarked that he held everything in his hand he needs. Sad.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool_BestSchool
It's across all age groups ..... for the Boomer haters out there ...... there IS a marked decrease in cell phone addiction once folks get to be in their 60's.


Agreed.

I only use my smart phone to make calls, text & take photos of fish or game killed. My last text was this past Saturday. I am in my 60's. Only go on the internet while at home using my laptop.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool_BestSchool
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Its a shítty deal.....because that is how the kids communicate now.

You can't bow up and tell them to "call" their friends like we used to.


That isn't really a thing anymore....no matter how much we want it to be.

If possible....try and limit it to talk and text. There are parental controls available too.


Cell phones are kind of a necessary evil now.....but Snap Chat, Face Book Instagram and tik tok are not.


Don't let your kid have that shįt.


So how you gonna do that Einstein?

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Montana Governor Greg Gianforte has signed a bill banning TikTok within the state — the first ban of its kind in the United States. The bill, SB 419, prohibits TikTok from operating “within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana” and demands mobile app stores make the app unavailable for Montana residents.

More laws, they're always the best answer :sarcasm:. Even a red state like Montana likes to push new laws on people...

I have zero clue how it'll ever be enforced, and a person can just hop the border to a new state to download it, but this is one path, I guess.



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Originally Posted by hanco
Most everyone has a phone in their hand. I do as I peck this.

Not really .... there is this Old School thing called a PC. When I am outside, or driving, or whatever my phone is for phone calls. Matter of fact, my phone is for phone calls all the time.

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I heard one at the gout doctors office man in the wait room with his made sounds like a duck quacking. Thought I was hearing a toy. First for me.

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99% of what young people convey is dribble. Why they have targeted that form of communication as all important, learned behavior. The bane of society today is the “look at Me” need for attention.

Go to a sporting event of youth and note how many watching parents are actually watching their phones. Drive thru the urban areas and it seems any parent walking a small child is watching a phone in the other hand. I see them pushing strollers down sidewalks while staring at phones. I’ve seen family gatherings and group picnics where the majority of heads are bowed to the mystical phone. Bicycles with youth seats on the back and a phone mount on the handle bars. Youth are left to one form of attention the dam imagination stealing phone.

Without adult interaction from the earliest years explaining the world the youth see, what is right and what is wrong, and just giving them attention why should we expect anything different than the whacked out selfish society we’re getting. A phone doesn’t teach reality like a good parent does, it teaches the opposite.

Guiding fishing groups in the far north in areas with no service it sure is noticeable night by night the increase in communication and talk of the days events along with more inclusive activities like crib and gin games. I know the guys and gals go right back to the electronics when they leave camp but at least I see a bit of the old ways.

Those phones while needed have become a terrible thing in the hands of youth, and even more so to “parents”. The next Apple I phone won’t be called 15… it will be called mom. The heavier version with more pre loaded porn will be called the Dad model. Welcome to the future.

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Thinking that if we could have an honest figure on just how many vehicle crashes are caused by phone distractions it would be scary.

It's probably a lot. But the number of vehicle crashes has declined in relation to the number of cars on the road in recent years. I'm thinking that the same people who can't drive with a cellphone can't drive without one. They have something to blame it on now.


Most people don't really want the truth.

They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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If the govt wants to ban something....cell phones would be a good place to start. I have one but don't use it much. I'm an club officer and members sometimes call me when repairs need done. They can be a real PITA at times. If I'm at the gun club or gun show I usually leave my phone in the truck. I'm surprised some of these people don't just have their phone implanted to the side of their head.

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Originally Posted by muleshoe
Thinking that if we could have an honest figure on just how many vehicle crashes are caused by phone distractions it would be scary.

Or, if we could just have an honest figure on ………

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Thinking that if we could have an honest figure on just how many vehicle crashes are caused by phone distractions it would be scary.

Or, if we could just have an honest figure on ………

Truth…..


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So what's bad enough about tiktok that Montana is banning it? I have never looked at it, don't have a cell phone either.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
So what's bad enough about tiktok that Montana is banning it? I have never looked at it, don't have a cell phone either.

https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-ban-montana-325a33578a2bbfbe53e9c251d528c5fb

The intent is to prevent the CCP (Tik Toc is a Chinese owned internet ecosystem platfrom) from gaining access to sensitive American intel. What most people don't realize is that, while considered inane, platforms like Tik Toc provide an easy access into the WWW ecosystem and a back door into unsuspecting user accounts.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I'll bet 1/2 the posts on this forum are posted by people in their 60s and 70s, and many posts come from their phones. It is what it is....

I see every bit as many boomers and Gen X glued to their phones in stores, restaurants, while stopped at red lights, etc. as I do millennials and Gen Y. EVERY BIT. That isn't to say it isn't an issue, but I am saying it isn't limited to 'young' people.

Here is a major difference, your older types can put the phone aside and still function. You take a phone away from a kid and they are worthless and shut completely down.

I have a phone but have no problem leaving it at home or turning it off for several days at a stretch and you will never see a kid do that


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I'll bet 1/2 the posts on this forum are posted by people in their 60s and 70s, and many posts come from their phones. It is what it is....

I see every bit as many boomers and Gen X glued to their phones in stores, restaurants, while stopped at red lights, etc. as I do millennials and Gen Y. EVERY BIT. That isn't to say it isn't an issue, but I am saying it isn't limited to 'young' people.

Here is a major difference, your older types can put the phone aside and still function. You take a phone away from a kid and they are worthless and shut completely down.

I have a phone but have no problem leaving it at home or turning it off for several days at a stretch and you will never see a kid do that


^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^

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Originally Posted by Jerry_Lundegaard
Not just kids. My older sister, pushing 60 is addicted to her phone. Impossible to have any conversation without her glancing at her phone every 15 seconds. And when she does engage, it's one word answers.

Freaking rude AF! I just walk away and don't really interact. If she wants to have a normal human conversation with me anymore, she better put the phone away.

So disrespectful.

Exactly like my oldest sister. She is pushing 60 too and it's the same thing. She'll drive an hour and a half to "visit" our parents and sit on her phone the whole time. Pathetic.


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Originally Posted by MAC
Originally Posted by T_Inman
I'll bet 1/2 the posts on this forum are posted by people in their 60s and 70s, and many posts come from their phones. It is what it is....

I see every bit as many boomers and Gen X glued to their phones in stores, restaurants, while stopped at red lights, etc. as I do millennials and Gen Y. EVERY BIT. That isn't to say it isn't an issue, but I am saying it isn't limited to 'young' people.

Here is a major difference, your older types can put the phone aside and still function. You take a phone away from a kid and they are worthless and shut completely down.

I have a phone but have no problem leaving it at home or turning it off for several days at a stretch and you will never see a kid do that

I'll totally buy that older folks can function better without their phones in a general sense, but I will not buy that if you take a phone away from a kid and they are worthless and shut completely down. Some I am sure---but plenty do fine without their phones for hours if not a couple days. My 22 year old nephew is fine without his, and so is at least one of his friends. I constantly see retirement aged folks, doing nothing but looking at their phones. It isn't right, wrong or indifferent.


How many of you all are reading this very thread on your phone? I'll bet at least 1/2.



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