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Looks like Remington may be trying. https://www.remarms.com/
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It seems others are choosing Trigger Tech.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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It still doesn’t make up for the other fugk ups. But I do like a Timney.
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Great choice, now when are they going to fix the extractors and bolt handles?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Great choice, now when are they going to fix the extractors and bolt handles? I thought I read somewhere that the bolt handles are now one piece?
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Can they outsource bluing, too? Toward the end it was horrendous.
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So now an adl will cost $650?
Pass the vanguards...
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What a fickle bunch.
Timney was never not a good trigger. Now TT is on the scene and a factory rifle coming with a Timney is debated. Lol.
I have both TT and Timney and cannot tell a difference in quality. Actually, come to think of it...I've had to send a TT back, haven't had to send a Timney in yet.
After owning 25 or so 700 I can honestly say that I've never had a bolt handle fall off or an extractor break....course anything is possible I reckon. But I did have a m70 that didnt function worth a dam, have returned two Sako 85s, etc.
Has anyone here actually seen a new model 700? They are some of the nicest rifles Remington has put out in years. The finish on the BDL models are reminiscent of the guns from the 70s and 80s.
If I can get a model 700 with a Timney with a fit and finish that's on par or maybe even a bit better with the guns of the past for 650$....I'll take two.
Sure makes it hard to beleive all of the claims of lousy 700 quality when they are now upgraded in every way possible and you guys are still unhappy.
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Great choice, now when are they going to fix the extractors and bolt handles? I thought I read somewhere that the bolt handles are now one piece? The bolt handles were always one piece. Most times they even stuck to the rest of the bolt. I've only seen rwo that came off, one of them mine. Still have it too, now re-attached.
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But it’s a new non-adjustable Timney. I’d rather the cheap factory trigger and then swap myself. I don’t want to pay extra for a 3-4lb trigger in a 700.
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But I’m likely not “Average Joe” rifle owner, so there’s that. A 2-4lb adjustable unit would have had more appeal.
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JPro has it right. Non adjustable Timney set between 3-4 lbs at the factory. If it is a crisp “breaks like glass three lbs” great! If it is a creepy or gritty 4 lb pull NOT great. This maybe a decent improvement maybe not. I don’t think anybody jumped for joy when Winchester introduced the MOA trigger to replace the original Model 70 trigger.
This is just another layer of protection from liability plaintiff attorneys. Remington is probably still wincing from the cost of all the Walker trigger law suits.
Worst case you buy a $150-200 Triggertech and move on.
The plus side is I have been hearing lots of positive about the new 700s in terms of fit, finish and quality of new production. I hope they turn it around and return to what they were in the 1970s and 1980s.
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I am glad to see Remington taking gun making seriously.
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But it’s a new non-adjustable Timney. I’d rather the cheap factory trigger and then swap myself. I don’t want to pay extra for a 3-4lb trigger in a 700. Worst case you buy a $150-200 Triggertech and move on.
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I had a extractor issue on a new Rem XCR II in 375 H&H I bought for a brown bear hunt, because you guys made me paranoid I had the bolt handle welded on while my gunsmith had it lol. I have a 700 BDL in 270 I bought in 1968 and hunted extensively with. Relatively warm loads (150g Partitions at 3000 fps) also shot a lot of 90g Sierra HPBTs at 3400 fps with it. Killed dozens of elk, more deer and 9 bears with it (Montana and the Adirondacks). Never a single issue with it. It's good to see Remington is starting to address issues with the newer rifles.
Regards,
Chuck
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I must say buying a Remington for a BB hunt or any other DG hunt strikes me as not unlike wearing sneakers to a black tie event.
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Going to Timney isn't a bad thing. The Timney being non-adjustable isn't a good thing.
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I'm going to guess that a budget, contract-spec trigger probably isn't going to be to the same quality as a regular Timney. Then again, the average hunter is fine with a 7.5lb trigger that feels like a creaky wheelchair being dragged through broken glass and breaks like a sad banana, so from that standpoint it's probably an upgrade.
Remington lost a hell of a lot of market share to Savage and Ruger on the cheap end and Tikka in the mid-range - justifiably - and at this point I can't see a reason to buy a Remington 700, new manufacture or not, over a proven gun like a Tikka for the same price. The Remington coming with a Timney doesn't shift that one bit.
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