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As to factory options - rifle and ammo, if deer/hogs are the largest menu........hard to beat what it offers. It can handle larger game if pressed, but I'd not want to try stopping a bear charge if in bear country. Otherwise, it would be a top pick. The 6.5C and 7/08 also are great choices as the older 243 with top bullets. To me, today's bullet choices did to the 6, what they did for 9s.......made them a solid option.
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I have two 6 Creedmoor rifles with a 7 and 7.5 twist, and an old .243 I bought when I turned 18. I don't have a rifle in .224 cal cartridges larger than .223 Rem. 6mm the smallest cal I can legally hunt with in my state, but I do hunt where .224 is legal often. That's why I threw it in the mix.
The .308 just flat works for how I hunt as well.
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If it were me I would firmly be in the 6.5x47 or 6x47 Lapua camps. Damn near creedmoor velocities with meager amounts of powder, low recoil/muzzle blast and brass that lasts damn near forever.
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I like the 6BR and have built a whole bunch of them. Feeding is hit and miss without some magazine mods; usually minor. DipStick would be the man to ask about magazine options. I'm sure he's tried a few. The thing is, the BR pushes the 243 pretty hard and is so easy to tune and shoot, it's almost like cheating. I still chamber for the original BR for shortrange BR and the Norma version for everything else. The 6 BR is very well represented at the Metallic Silhouette matches, and the guys are successful with it. When sighting in, one shooter regularly shoots the 385 meter turkeys in the head. If chambering for the 6BR, it's not a bad idea to have the firing pin reduced and bushed at the same time, to eliminate primer cratering. GD
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The idea of toting a 10-pound hunting rifle around makes my poor old tired blood run cold. I have a 6CM, and think it’s a great choice, but at 6.5 lbs or so, maybe 7.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Go wild - be the first kid on the block with a 6.8x51/277 SIG Fury!
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Go wild - be the first kid on the block with a 6.8x51/277 SIG Fury! Yeah, no.
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Go wild - be the first kid on the block with a 6.8x51/277 SIG Fury! I can sell you a set of reamers cheap that's a 270-308 not sure if it's exactly the same or not. I can send you pics if you're interested.
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The idea of toting a 10-pound hunting rifle around makes my poor old tired blood run cold. I have a 6CM, and think it’s a great choice, but at 6.5 lbs or so, maybe 7. I have a 7lbs suppressed .308 now. There isn't much I can do to make the rifle in question lighter as it sits except change the optics.
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In your Remington, with an extended box and long throat, you can seat the .308 150 E-tips out to 2.92" and get around 2900 fps with H4895 in a 22" tube if you want. But that's still not going to be as good as a 140 .277 at around 3000 fps from a brass-cased .277 Fury using H4350 in a 22" tube.
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SniffleKchunt,
Your GoogleFu is stuck on FULL Retard...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Not that you ha "choice". Hint.
Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for trying though.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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SniffleKchunt,
Your GoogleFu is stuck on FULL Retard...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Not that you ha "choice". Hint.
Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for trying though.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............. Little Liar Larry, people like you who spend all their time on the internet making posts rather than hunting, would be better off just reading the posts and learning, rather than posting fantasy about long-range hunting with 180's in a 7-08 that they never, ever do. Oh, and I'm glad you took my advice and bought some .277 150 grain SuperBulldozers.
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But that's still not going to be as good as a 140 .277 at around 3000 fps from a brass-cased .277 Fury using H4350 in a 22" tube. No way I'm going to run 140 at 3K in an action not designed to handle the Fury pressures.
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But that's still not going to be as good as a 140 .277 at around 3000 fps from a brass-cased .277 Fury using H4350 in a 22" tube. No way I'm going to run 140 at 3K in an action not designed to handle the Fury pressures. "brass-cased" meaning the ordinary mild-pressure brass cases in a 22" barrel, not the 80,000 psi hybrid steel and brass case in a 16" barrel.
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SniffleKchunt, Your Delusional Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude is a hoot,as you Google aloud from your Couchbound Kchunt,while "living" vicariously...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Slow day here,as per usual. hint. Cases formed nicely,if only as per always. Hint. Typical M3,in that you lose a third or so,on a "flat" system. Nice to be able to zero parallax an I've long M3'd a third dot,to the platform's zero(250yds here). Google as you MUST. Hint. Weather blew up and flopped around,which makes things fun. Hint. Also makes extrapolations,that much more revealing. Hint. 1100yd steel didn't have an ELD chance,but the MB's STOLE The Fhuqking Show. BC still "matters". Hint. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Keep rattlin' Pom-Pom's from the sideline,despiute that being your ONLY "move". Hint. Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for Lying,Crying,Trying and Whining. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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But that's still not going to be as good as a 140 .277 at around 3000 fps from a brass-cased .277 Fury using H4350 in a 22" tube. No way I'm going to run 140 at 3K in an action not designed to handle the Fury pressures. "brass-cased" meaning the ordinary mild-pressure brass cases in a 22" barrel, not the 80,000 psi hybrid steel and brass case in a 16" barrel. I've not seen any data that suggests you can get close to 3K FPS without exceeding 65K PSI, often times 70K+ PSI. This is based off of Quick Load Data I've found. The .277 Fury Commercial data keeps the pressure reasonable, and the .277 Fury data pushes pressure well above 65K PSI. I can't find any actual reloading data yet on this cartridge.
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.260 Rem. One of the most overlooked rounds out there and is very effective suppressed in a bolt gun. Perfect for everything from varmint to large pigs, using a quality bonded or mono-metal bullet.
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Just got my 260 rem about a week ago. Now needs to cool off so I can shoot it. 700 Rem action with Lilja 22" barrel. Going to work it up with 129gr Hornadys. 2-7x Redfield scope on it.
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The 264 Kreed is mechanically a muchly superior Mouse Trap to the 260. Though I just "happen" to shoot 260AI too. Hint.
It'd be tough to make a much 260 schittier,than have it squirting 129 Hornie's through a Dreadfield. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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But that's still not going to be as good as a 140 .277 at around 3000 fps from a brass-cased .277 Fury using H4350 in a 22" tube. No way I'm going to run 140 at 3K in an action not designed to handle the Fury pressures. "brass-cased" meaning the ordinary mild-pressure brass cases in a 22" barrel, not the 80,000 psi hybrid steel and brass case in a 16" barrel. I've not seen any data that suggests you can get close to 3K FPS without exceeding 65K PSI, often times 70K+ PSI. This is based off of Quick Load Data I've found. The .277 Fury Commercial data keeps the pressure reasonable, and the .277 Fury data pushes pressure well above 65K PSI. I can't find any actual reloading data yet on this cartridge. I load for the equivalent of this. In fact the fury holds about a grain more. Figures given are based on my results seating out to 2.91" with a long magazine box.
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