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Yeah #18766858 09/17/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming I won the bubbaed Rentzschke engraved 99F on gun broker. I now have a consecutive numbered pair. Anyone have a 99F stock they want to part with? wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18766869 09/17/23 Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,709 Likes: 1 Northern MN D damnesia Campfire Regular damnesia Campfire Regular D Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,709 Likes: 1 Northern MN For those of us who haven't been paying attention.... can you possibly pictures please?

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18766916 09/17/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Congrats! Renzschke 99F "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18766922 09/17/23 Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 397 Arizona M missedbycracky Campfire Member missedbycracky Campfire Member M Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 397 Arizona Approximate S/N?

Re: Yeah Southern_WI_Savage #18766925 09/17/23 Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,709 Likes: 1 Northern MN D damnesia Campfire Regular damnesia Campfire Regular D Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,709 Likes: 1 Northern MN Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage Congrats! Renzschke 99F Thanks!

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18766933 09/17/23 Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,709 Likes: 1 Northern MN D damnesia Campfire Regular damnesia Campfire Regular D Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,709 Likes: 1 Northern MN Well that seems to be a reasonable price with all things considered.

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18767038 09/17/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming I'm comfortable with the price. I'll get rid of the ugly recoil pad. If I can't find a buttstock I'll reshape the stock and put on a proper buttplate. The GB rifle's serial # is 928917. I already have 928916 wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18767064 09/17/23 Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 397 Arizona M missedbycracky Campfire Member missedbycracky Campfire Member M Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 397 Arizona I have a buttstock in near perfect condition with buttplate.

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18767478 09/17/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Congrats on two consecutive engraved rifles! Sweet! “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18767661 09/18/23 Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 3,057 Illinois Z zcm82 Campfire Tracker zcm82 Campfire Tracker Z Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 3,057 Illinois Sharp looking rifle for the price, gonna be a real beauty after the butt swap 👍

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18768356 09/18/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by wyo1895 I'm comfortable with the price. I'll get rid of the ugly recoil pad. If I can't find a buttstock I'll reshape the stock and put on a proper buttplate. The GB rifle's serial # is 928917. I already have 928916 Hopefully you can bring 'er back to life and restore it to near original glory. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18768497 09/18/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming missedbycracky, PM on it's way. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18768623 09/18/23 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,596 N E Kansas Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,596 N E Kansas We have only turned up 5 so far that I have data on and that has been in recent years. Four are 308's, in .243 and David has it. Two Rentsches', in two calibers and consecutively serialed... well done! Savage...never say "never". Rick... Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18771461 09/19/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming My rifles aren't the only consecutive numbered engraved 99's. Brent Geistweidt has two consecutively numbered 99DE's, both 284 W. The serial #'s are 1,145,395 and 1,145,396. They both have blued receivers. They are covered in my engraved Savage book pages 143 and 144. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah Rick99 #18771543 09/19/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Rick99 We have only turned up 5 so far that I have data on and that has been in recent years. Four are 308's, in .243 and David has it. Two Rentzschke's, in two calibers and consecutively serialed... well done! Evidently Mr. Rentzschke was a graduate of Southern Illinois University class of '67. Can't 'splain that one. Yet. This would have been after his time at Savage (~1956-1960) and as he went on to Springfield Technical Community College in MA. (~1967-1978) Last edited by Southern_WI_Savage; 09/19/23. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah Southern_WI_Savage #18771625 09/19/23 Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 3,057 Illinois Z zcm82 Campfire Tracker zcm82 Campfire Tracker Z Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 3,057 Illinois Not enough money in it, or maybe hand problems? Just spitballing there 🤷‍♂️

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18771711 09/19/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI I think Rentzschke was the last of the in-house Savage engravers. Though only there for ~4 years and performed other functions as well. By that time, Savage was basically out of the in-house engraving business as Rentzschke engraved a few 99F's and the One Millionth 99. It appears Savage hired out engraving after that and that included work by Rentzschke and probably some others who remain unknown at this time. Probably a career change driven by the engraving climate and other factors. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18772997 09/19/23 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,945 South West MI 3 300jimmy Campfire Regular 300jimmy Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,945 South West MI Way to go. You have to love second chances. God is pursuing you America ---turn around!

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18773092 09/19/23 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,337 Likes: 1 Va 9 99guy Campfire Outfitter 99guy Campfire Outfitter 9 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,337 Likes: 1 Va Went from engraving guns to teaching economics. Wow. "You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18773770 09/20/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Rentzschke is best known for his work while he worked for A.A. White Co. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah Rick99 #18797154 09/28/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Rick99 We have only turned up 5 so far that I have data on and that has been in recent years. This is one of them. Uniquely different engraving pattern and not like 3 of the other Rentzschke rifles that utilized the "A" engraving pattern. I suspect Rentzschke did this one as well as it seems his 99F's were done about the same time period. I'm guessing a few warm ups before he did the One Millionth Rifle. Who knows? Anybody seen this one in hand? I wonder if #500,001 left Savage via the R&D collection dispersal as well. ?? Last edited by Southern_WI_Savage; 09/28/23. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18797364 09/28/23 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,727 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,727 So. Kaleefornya Curious when this auction was held, or is it current. Have Never seen this before!

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18797717 09/28/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming James D. Julia sold out some time ago. It has to have before that. That sure looks like Rentzschke's really tight scroll work. My new Rentzschke should be here tomorrow. But I'm not holding my breath. It's already been delayed one day. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah Lightfoot #18797723 09/28/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Lightfoot Curious when this auction was held, or is it current. Have Never seen this before! I've long since lost the bookmark, but IIRC ~2012. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18797745 09/28/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska James Julia auction. Fall 2012, lot 1213. High bid was $6000, plus fees/etc. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18798911 09/28/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Thanks for the confirmation of 764145 Rory. Here are a few pics of 500,001 that I got from John Wright. 99F, .308, Siegfried Rentzschke. One of my favorite rifles! "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18799984 09/29/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming That is a really interesting rifle. I'm glad you got it. Since it's a 308 it obvious that it is actually a post 900,000 action that Savage used a serial # that they had saved after the move to Chicopee. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18800077 09/29/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by wyo1895 That is a really interesting rifle. I'm glad you got it. Since it's a 308 it obvious that it is actually a post 900,000 action that Savage used a serial # that they had saved after the move to Chicopee. Your new rifle Serial 928XXX dates to 1957. I am curious what the lever boss/inspector stamp says. ?? While you are at it, check the .243 too. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18800099 09/29/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming good point, I'll do that. Just tried to access the tracking #. internet won't let me do that. now internet is working. They still say it'll be delivered today. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18802721 09/30/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming It came at 3:33 yesterday. Not as nice as the other one but OK for the price. There is no assembly # on the forearm. Recoil pad looks too new to have been on the rifle for very long. The scope lenses were filthy. Both rifles have assembly code 11I. here are some pics. Overall of both rifles serial #'s right side # 916 engraving left side #916 engraving right side #917 engraving left side #917 engraving Since it's already been used I'll take it to the range tomorrow. May hunt elk with it this Fall. Last edited by wyo1895; 09/30/23. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18802763 09/30/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by wyo1895 Both rifles have assembly code 11I. Thanks David. 11I = 1957 for both rifles. vs. 500,001 = 11L = 1960 11 = same inspector Roland Bienvenue "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18802830 09/30/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming The letter on 916 says it was shipped in 1964. I'll get a letter on 917. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18802999 09/30/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Don't bother right now with a letter. Nobody knows where these ledgers are. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18803137 09/30/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming Has Cody sent them somewhere? wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18803153 09/30/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Savage never gave them to Cody is what Cody has told me. The last they have is some intermittent shipping records for serial numbers 400000-436558. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah Calhoun #18803184 09/30/23 Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain P Poconojack Campfire Tracker Poconojack Campfire Tracker P Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain Originally Posted by Calhoun Don't bother right now with a letter. Nobody knows where these ledgers are. JTC indicated he found the factory records for S/N 928916 on microfiche, not in a ledger. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18803273 09/30/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Yep. But Cody says they don't have them. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18803300 09/30/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Maybe “Effie” could shed some light. A potential contact anyway.?? What if they are still available?? "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18803343 09/30/23 Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain P Poconojack Campfire Tracker Poconojack Campfire Tracker P Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain The tenor of the letter was that Savage kept records on microfiche during this time period and that is where JTC looked for and found the record for 928916. My sense is that the microfiche was kept in a different location, it still exists and no one even thought of sending it to Cody. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18804262 09/30/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Does anyone know or recall when Savage dispersed of their R&D guns? I thought someone here had some insight. ?? "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18804273 09/30/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska 260Remguy has spoken of seeing them being resold by some retailers in the northeast. I seem to remember it was late 80's, probably as they were facing/going through bankruptcy that led to Coburn taking over. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah Calhoun #18804945 10/01/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Calhoun 260Remguy has spoken of seeing them being resold by some retailers in the northeast. I seem to remember it was late 80's, probably as they were facing/going through bankruptcy that led to Coburn taking over. The first letter from Roe for #500,001 was dated 1982. Hmmm.... "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18805807 10/01/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Here is an attempt to list the known Rentzschke rifles. Feel free to double check accuracy. Rick99, I don't have the 5th. ?? Last edited by Southern_WI_Savage; 10/01/23. Reason: updated errors "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18806441 10/01/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming A guy named Michael Burt has one. I thought he is a member on here. I'll check with him and see if he minds the serial number being posted on the forum. #917 shot pretty good till the scope fogged up. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18806572 10/01/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by wyo1895 A guy named Michael Burt has one. I thought he is a member on here. I'll check with him and see if he minds the serial number being posted on the forum. #917 shot pretty good till the scope fogged up. Thanks David. S.N., caliber, LBC, letter or any other info would be great. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah Southern_WI_Savage #18806961 10/01/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage Maybe “Effie” could shed some light. A potential contact anyway.?? What if they are still available?? Effie retired several years ago. Even while there she wasn't keen on talking Savage history with outside folks, it seems like. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah Calhoun #18806997 10/01/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Calhoun Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage Maybe “Effie” could shed some light. A potential contact anyway.?? What if they are still available?? Effie retired several years ago. Even while there she wasn't keen on talking Savage history with outside folks, it seems like. Well IF the microfiche still exist, this may be a job for David Royal and Ron Coburn to get thru to Savage and identify them. Then figure out whose hands to get them in. Hopefully one of us that could analyze them, digitize them and make them available. Ya gotta have hope! "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18809036 10/02/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming Mike Burt's Rentzschke is serial #928,927(only 9 and 10 digits off from my rifles), LBC11J, caliber 308. He wasn't able to get a letter. Here is a copy of my JTC letter on 928,916. Note that he said the info was on microfilm. Last edited by Rick99; 10/03/23. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18809193 10/02/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Thanks David & Mr. Burt. Updated results... how many more are out there??.... "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18809274 10/02/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming I called the Cody museum. They said they don't have data for anything after 1941. I then called the Savage factory. They said they only had data for 1995 and later and that they definitely did not have the microfilm for the 50's and 60's. I'll try to get in touch with Ron Coburn later. I've got to get on with my day. Hungry horses, a rifle that needs to be zeroed in, get ready to hunt tomorrow, etc. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18809292 10/02/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18809321 10/02/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by wyo1895 I called the Cody museum. They said they don't have data for anything after 1941. I then called the Savage factory. They said they only had data for 1995 and later and that they definitely did not have the microfilm for the 50's and 60's. I'll try to get in touch with Ron Coburn later. I've got to get on with my day. Hungry horses, a rifle that needs to be zeroed in, get ready to hunt tomorrow, etc. Thanks for trying David. I guess Mr. Callahan is the only person who may shed light on the microfilm. Sigh… "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18812281 10/03/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming put a Leupold 1 1/2 X 4 scope on the Rentzschke. Zeroed it and shot 2 groups, 1 1/4" and 1 1 5/8". Nosler 150 partition, 43 g. RL15 and 210 primer. This load gave good groups with the EG 308 and the DE 308. It hailed before I could get the target in. the target is that white thing flapping the breeze in the background. It was in the ditch before the hail stopped. Shoulda snowed good in the mountains. Can't see them yet for clouds. Going elk hunting tomorrow with the EG 308. Will take the Rentzschke when the weather is better. Last edited by wyo1895; 10/03/23. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah Southern_WI_Savage #18813713 10/03/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage how many more are out there??.... One more! "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18813924 10/03/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Probably 94 or less. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah Calhoun #18814555 10/04/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Calhoun Probably 94 or less. Got a ways to go then. I've read ~100 too. Does that come via Roe and ledger access? or some other knowledge? "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah Calhoun #18814812 10/04/23 Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain P Poconojack Campfire Tracker Poconojack Campfire Tracker P Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain Originally Posted by Calhoun Probably 94 or less. A lot less "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Yeah Southern_WI_Savage #18814875 10/04/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage Originally Posted by Calhoun Probably 94 or less. Got a ways to go then. I've read ~100 too. Does that come via Roe and ledger access? or some other knowledge? Comment from Roe, not from the ledger. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18815671 10/04/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming I wonder what the story is on a 308 with serial # 764145. Another later action an earlier serial #? There doesn't appear to be anything significant about the serial # unlike 500,001. Or essentially a single shot? wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18815711 10/04/23 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,727 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,727 So. Kaleefornya Originally Posted by wyo1895 I wonder what the story is on a 308 with serial # 764145. Another later action an earlier serial #? There doesn't appear to be anything significant about the serial # unlike 500,001. Or essentially a single shot? Yeah, me too! Since it's and R&D gun it's hard to tell what the internals look like. I sorta thought maybe they used that one to fit up the magazine change. It might be milled out for the new rear rotor support? If not - it's just a single shot. But doubt they would do that?

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18815759 10/04/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska 764145 wasn't finished until 1960.. letter says an 11L boss stamp on it. So I'm guessing it's a 900,000 series receiver with just an earlier serial number stamped on it for some odd reason. Kind of like 500,001. Why? Darned good question. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18815761 10/04/23 Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming wyo1895 OP Campfire Tracker OP wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,522 Likes: 1 Wyoming I think the magazine rework is the answer. I can't imagine it leaving the factory a single shot. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

Re: Yeah wyo1895 #18816004 10/04/23 Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain P Poconojack Campfire Tracker Poconojack Campfire Tracker P Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7,364 The West Mountain 30 years between Roe’s factory letter noting that Rentzschke did the engraving on 500,001 and JTC’s factory letter indicating Rentzschke engraved 928,916. No one even knew these factory engraved guns existed until 10 years ago. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Yeah Calhoun #18816136 10/04/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Calhoun 764145 wasn't finished until 1960.. letter says an 11L boss stamp on it. So I'm guessing it's a 900,000 series receiver with just an earlier serial number stamped on it for some odd reason. Kind of like 500,001. Why? Darned good question. Agree. 764145 was the tail end before Savage (almost) skipped the 800,000 series and created the 900,000 cutoff. BTW - 500,001 S.N is engraved vs. stamped. It's a Savage thang. "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah Poconojack #18816179 10/04/23 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,495 Sauk City, WI Originally Posted by Poconojack Originally Posted by Calhoun Probably 94 or less. A lot less Yea, I have no direct knowledge and I believe Roe's comments, but if there were ~100 or even 50 you'd think we see them occasionally. ?? "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Yeah Poconojack #18816654 10/04/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,770 Eastern Nebraska Originally Posted by Poconojack 30 years between Roe’s factory letter noting that Rentzschke did the engraving on 500,001 and JTC’s factory letter indicating Rentzschke engraved 928,916. No one even knew these factory engraved guns existed until 10 years ago. Roe knew of Rentzke, I think he knew him personally when he worked there. Callahan also had some information on them. So they weren't totally unknown, except to us. Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage Originally Posted by Poconojack Originally Posted by Calhoun Probably 94 or less. A lot less Yea, I have no direct knowledge and I believe Roe's comments, but if there were ~100 or even 50 you'd think we see them occasionally. ?? There are 60 Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation rifles out there. How many have you seen sell in the last 15 years? Probably similar to how many Rentzke rifles we've seen sell. So it's not impossible.. and it's possible there's somebody out there that owns 20 of 'em. We just don't know. I'd be surprised if it's really 100 tho. Probably lower, just as a gut feel. Last edited by Calhoun; 10/04/23. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com