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They’ll be redlined, destroyed, abandoned, or otherwise out of action within a month. Do they have anything else in the inventory with a gas turbine engine? Those things are maintenance hogs. That’s where you’re going to see the lack of training and the different cultural maintenance mindset come into play. The US Army has since WW II cultivated a maintenance intensive mindset with the crews of all our tracked vehicles. If you’re not moving, you’re thinking about maintenance. And all of our vehicles were built with that maintenance culture in mind. Soviet Bloc was different. Mechanically simple and reliable vehicles, but if it couldn’t be fixed by an illiterate seventeen year old driver using nothing more than a ball peen hammer, it’s going back to the depot for repair. That won’t work with our equipment.

yep, those Russians are fixing equipment, that's why they use T62 and they are starting to T54. the T72, 80 and 90 aren't needed. well, they were.....

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

By Jakub Janovsky, naalsio26, Aloha, Dan, Stijn Mitzer, Joost Oliemans and Kemal

This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here. Loitering munitions, drones used as unmanned bait, civilian vehicles and derelict equipment are not included in this list. All possible effort has gone into avoiding duplicate entries and discerning the status of equipment between captured or abandoned. Many of the entries listed as 'abandoned' will likely end up captured or destroyed. Similarly, some of the captured equipment might be destroyed if it can't be recovered. When a vehicle is captured and then lost in service with its new owners, it is only added as a loss of the original operator to avoid double listings. When the origin of a piece of equipment can't be established, it's not included in the list. The Soviet flag is used when the equipment in question was produced prior to 1991. This list is constantly updated as additional footage becomes available.


Russia - 12292, of which: destroyed: 8452, damaged: 498, abandoned: 459, captured: 2884


Tanks (2334, of which destroyed: 1520, damaged: 129, abandoned: 136, captured: 551)
1 Unknown T-54/55 (1, destroyed)
1 T-55A: (1, damaged)
1 T-62 Obr. 1967: (1, captured)
64 T-62M: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6 and 7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18 and 19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, 3, 4 and 5, damaged) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, damaged and captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, damaged and captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, damaged and captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, damaged and captured) (30, damaged and captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35, captured)
2 T-62M Obr. 2022: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed)
15 T-62MV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (1, damaged) (1, damaged and abandoned) (1, damaged and captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5 and 6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured)
1 T-62MV Obr. 2022: (1, destroyed)
2 T-64A: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed)
63 T-64BV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36 and 37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (1, abandoned) (2, abandoned) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, damaged and captured) (4, captured) (5, captured)
2 T-72 'Ural': (1, destroyed) (1, damaged and abandoned)
41 T-72A: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11 and 12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (1, damaged) (1, abandoned) (2, damaged and abandoned) (3, damaged and abandoned) (4, damaged and abandoned) (5, damaged and abandoned) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured)
12 T-72AV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (1, damaged and captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured)
306 T-72B: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, captured and later destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12 and 13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, 51, 52 and 53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed) (62, destroyed) (63, destroyed) (64, destroyed) (65, destroyed) (66, destroyed) (67, destroyed) (68, destroyed) (69, destroyed) (70, destroyed) (71, destroyed) (72, destroyed) (73, destroyed) (74, destroyed) (75, destroyed) (76, destroyed) (77, destroyed) (78, destroyed) (79, destroyed) (80, destroyed) (81, destroyed) (82 and 83, destroyed) (84, destroyed) (85, destroyed) (86, destroyed) (87, destroyed) (88, destroyed) (89, destroyed) (90, captured and destroyed) (91, destroyed) (92 and 93, destroyed) (94, destroyed) (95, destroyed) (96, destroyed) (97, destroyed) (98, destroyed) (99, destroyed) (100, destroyed) (101, destroyed) (102, destroyed) (103, destroyed) (104, destroyed) (105, destroyed) (106, destroyed) (107, destroyed) (108, destroyed) (109, destroyed) (110, destroyed) (111, destroyed) (112, destroyed) (113, destroyed) (114, destroyed) (115, destroyed) (116, destroyed) (117, destroyed) (118, destroyed) (119, destroyed) (120, destroyed) (121, destroyed) (122, destroyed) (123, destroyed) (124, captured and later destroyed) (125, destroyed) (126, destroyed) (127, destroyed) (128, destroyed) (129, destroyed) (130, destroyed) (131, destroyed) (132, destroyed) (133, destroyed) (134, destroyed) (135, destroyed) (136, destroyed) (137, destroyed) (138, destroyed) (139, destroyed) (140, destroyed) (141, destroyed) (142, destroyed) (143, destroyed) (144, destroyed) (145, destroyed) (146, destroyed) (147, destroyed) (148, destroyed) (149, destroyed) (150 and 151, destroyed) (152, destroyed) (153, destroyed) (154, destroyed) (155, destroyed) (156, destroyed) (157, destroyed) (158, destroyed) (159, destroyed) (160, destroyed) (161, destroyed) (162, destroyed) (163, destroyed) (164, destroyed) (165, destroyed) (166, destroyed) (167, destroyed) (168, destroyed) (169, destroyed) (170, destroyed) (171, destroyed) (172, destroyed) (173, destroyed) (174, destroyed) (175, destroyed) (176, destroyed) (177, destroyed) (178, destroyed) (179, destroyed) (180, destroyed) (181, destroyed) (182, destroyed) (183 and 184, destroyed) (185, destroyed) (186, destroyed) (187, destroyed) (188, destroyed) (189, destroyed) (190, destroyed) (191, destroyed) (192, destroyed) (193, destroyed) (194, destroyed) (195, destroyed) (196 and 197, destroyed) (198, destroyed) (199, destroyed) (200, destroyed) (201, destroyed) (202, destroyed) (203, destroyed) (204 and 205, destroyed) (206, destroyed) (207, destroyed) (208, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (6, damaged) (7, damaged) (1, damaged and abandoned) (2, abandoned) (3, abandoned) (4, abandoned) (5, damaged and abandoned) (6, abandoned) (7, damaged and abandoned) (8, abandoned) (9, damaged and abandoned) (10, abandoned) (11, damaged and abandoned) (12, damaged and abandoned) (13, abandoned) (14, abandoned) (15, abandoned) (16, abandoned) (17, damaged and abandoned) (18, damaged and abandoned) (19, damaged and abandoned) (20, damaged and abandoned) (21, damaged and abandoned) (1, damaged and captured) (2 and 3, damaged and captured) (4, captured and stripped) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35, captured) (36, captured) (37, captured) (38, captured) (39, captured) (40, captured) (41, captured) (42, captured) (43, captured) (44, captured) (45, captured) (46, captured) (47, captured) (48, captured) (49, captured) (50, captured) (51, captured) (52, captured) (53, captured) (54, captured) (55, captured) (56, captured) (57, captured) (58 and 59, captured) (60, damaged and captured) (61, damaged and captured) (62, captured) (63, captured) (64, captured) (65, captured) (66, captured) (67, captured) (68, captured) (69, damaged and captured) (70, damaged and captured)
92 T-72B Obr. 1989: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, abandoned and destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39 and 40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48 and 49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (1, abandoned) (2, abandoned) (3, abandoned) (4 and 5, damaged and abandoned) (6, damaged and abandoned) (7, damaged and abandoned) (8, damaged and abandoned) (1, damaged and captured) (2, damaged and captured) (3, damaged and captured) (4, captured and stripped) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured)
5 T-72B Obr. 2022: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (1, damaged and abandoned) (2, damaged and abandoned)
29 T-72BA: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, damaged and captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured)
342 T-72B3: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8 and 9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, captured and destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed) (62, destroyed) (63 and 64, destroyed) (65, destroyed) (66, destroyed) (67, destroyed) (68, destroyed) (69, 70 and 71, destroyed) (72, destroyed) (73, destroyed) (74, destroyed) (75, destroyed) (76, destroyed) (77, destroyed) (78, destroyed) (79, destroyed) (80, destroyed) (81, destroyed) (82, destroyed) (83 and 84, destroyed) (85, destroyed) (86, destroyed) (87, destroyed) (88, destroyed) (89, destroyed) (90, destroyed) (91, destroyed) (92, destroyed) (93, destroyed) (94, destroyed) (95, destroyed) (96, destroyed) (97, destroyed) (98, destroyed) (99, destroyed) (100 and 101, destroyed) (102, destroyed) (103, destroyed) (104, destroyed) (105, destroyed) (106, destroyed) (107, captured and destroyed) (108, destroyed) (109, destroyed) (110, destroyed) (111, destroyed) (112, destroyed) (113, destroyed) (114, destroyed) (115, destroyed) (116, destroyed) (117, destroyed) (118, destroyed) (119, destroyed) (120, destroyed) (121, destroyed) (122, destroyed) (123, destroyed) (124, destroyed) (125, destroyed) (126, destroyed) (127, destroyed) (128, destroyed) (129, destroyed) (130, destroyed) (131, destroyed) (132, destroyed) (133, destroyed) (134, destroyed) (135, destroyed) (136, destroyed) (137, destroyed) (138, destroyed) (139, destroyed) (140, destroyed) (141, destroyed) (142, destroyed) (143, destroyed) (144, destroyed) (145, destroyed) (146, destroyed) (147, destroyed) (148, destroyed) (149, destroyed) (150, destroyed) (151, destroyed) (152, destroyed) (153, destroyed) (154, destroyed) (155, destroyed) (156, destroyed) (157, destroyed) (158, destroyed) (159, destroyed) (160, destroyed) (161, destroyed) (162, destroyed) (163, destroyed) (164, destroyed) (165, destroyed) (166, destroyed) (167, destroyed) (168, destroyed) (169, destroyed) (170, destroyed) (171, destroyed) (172, destroyed) (173, destroyed) (174, destroyed) (175, destroyed) (176, destroyed) (177, destroyed) (178, destroyed) (179, destroyed) (180, destroyed) (181, destroyed) (182, destroyed) (183, 184 and 185, destroyed) (186, destroyed) (187, destroyed) (188, destroyed) (189, destroyed) (190, destroyed) (191, destroyed) (192, destroyed) (193, destroyed) (194, destroyed) (195, destroyed) (196, destroyed) (197, destroyed) (198, destroyed) (199, destroyed) (200, destroyed) (201, destroyed) (202, destroyed) (203, destroyed) (204, destroyed) (205, destroyed) (206, destroyed) (207 and 208, destroyed) (209, destroyed) (210, destroyed) (211, destroyed) (212, destroyed) (213, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (6, damaged) (7, damaged) (8, damaged) (9, damaged) (10, damaged) (11, damaged) (12, damaged) (13, damaged) (14, damaged) (15, damaged) (16, damaged) (17, damaged) (18, damaged) (19, damaged) (20, damaged) (21, damaged) (22, damaged) (23, damaged) (1, abandoned) (2, abandoned) (3, damaged and abandoned) (4, damaged and abandoned) (5, damaged and abandoned) (6, damaged and abandoned) (7, damaged and abandoned) (8, damaged and abandoned) (9, damaged and abandoned) (10, damaged and abandoned) (11, damaged and abandoned) (12, damaged and abandoned) (13, damaged and abandoned) (14, damaged and abandoned) (15, abandoned) (16, damaged and abandoned) (17, damaged and abandoned) (18, damaged and abandoned) (19, abandoned) (20, abandoned) (21, damaged and abandoned) (1, damaged and captured) (2, damaged and captured) (3, damaged and captured) (4, damaged and captured) (5, captured) (6, damaged and captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, damaged and captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35, captured) (36, captured) (37, captured) (38, captured) (39, captured) (40, captured) (41, captured) (42, captured) (43, captured) (44, captured) (45, captured) (46, captured) (47, captured) (48, damaged and captured) (49, captured) (50 and 51, captured) (52, damaged and captured) (53, captured) (54, captured) (55, captured) (56, captured) (57, captured) (58, captured) (59, captured) (60, captured) (61, captured) (62, captured) (63, captured) (64, damaged and captured) (65, captured) (66 and 67, captured) (68, captured) (69, captured) (70, captured) (71, captured) (72, captured) (73, captured) (74, captured) (75, captured) (76 and 77, damaged and captured) (78, damaged and captured) (79, captured) (80, captured) (81, captured) (82, captured) (83, captured) (84, captured) (85, captured)
3 T-72B3 Obr. 2014: (1 and 2, destroyed) (1, captured)
241 T-72B3 Obr. 2016: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33 and 34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, abandoned and later destroyed) (48, abandoned and later destroyed) (49, abandoned and later destroyed) (50 and 51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed) (62, destroyed) (63, destroyed) (64, destroyed) (65, destroyed) (66, destroyed) (67, destroyed) (68, destroyed) (69 and 70, destroyed) (71, destroyed) (72, destroyed) (73, destroyed) (74, destroyed) (75, destroyed) (76, destroyed) (77, destroyed) (78, destroyed) (79, destroyed) (80, destroyed) (81, destroyed) (82, destroyed) (83 and 84, destroyed) (85 and 86, destroyed) (87, destroyed) (88, destroyed) (89, destroyed) (90, destroyed) (91, destroyed) (92, destroyed) (93, destroyed) (94, destroyed) (95, destroyed) (96, destroyed) (97, destroyed) (98, destroyed) (99, destroyed) (100, destroyed) (101, destroyed) (102, destroyed) (103, destroyed) (104, destroyed) (105, destroyed) (106, destroyed) (107, destroyed) (108, destroyed) (109, destroyed) (110, destroyed) (111, destroyed) (112, destroyed) (113, 114, 115, 116 and 117 destroyed) (118, destroyed) (119, destroyed) (120, destroyed) (121 and 122, destroyed) (123, destroyed) (124, destroyed) (125, destroyed) (126, destroyed) (127, destroyed) (128, destroyed) (129, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (1, abandoned) (2, abandoned) (3, damaged and abandoned) (4, damaged and abandoned) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, damaged and captured) (4, captured) (5, damaged and captured) (6, damaged and captured) (7, damaged and captured) (8, damaged and captured) (9, damaged and captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35, captured) (36, captured) (37, captured) (38, captured) (39, captured) (40, captured) (41, captured) (42, captured) (43, captured) (44, captured) (45 and 46, captured) (47, captured) (48, captured) (49, captured) (50, captured) (51, captured) (52, captured) (53, captured) (54, damaged and captured) (55, captured) (56, captured) (57, captured) (58 and 59, captured) (60, captured) (61, captured) (62, captured) (63, captured) (64, captured) (65, damaged and captured) (66, captured) (67, captured) (68, captured) (69, captured) (70, captured) (71, captured) (72, damaged and captured) (73, captured) (74, captured) (75, captured) (76, captured) (77, captured) (78, captured) (79, captured) (80, captured) (81, captured) (82, captured) (83, captured) (84, captured) (85, captured) (86, captured) (87, captured) (88, captured) (89, captured) (90, captured) (91, damaged and captured) (92, captured) (93, captured) (94, captured) (95, captured) (96, captured) (97, captured) (98, captured) (99, captured) (100, captured) (101, captured) (102, captured) (103, captured) (104, captured)
3 T-72B3 Obr. 2022: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed)
122 Unknown T-72: (1 and 2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7 and 8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, 16 and 17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22 and 23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, 26 and 27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, 34 and 35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, 42 and 43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, destroyed) (60 and 61, destroyed) (62, destroyed) (63, destroyed) (64, destroyed) (65, destroyed) (66, destroyed) (67, destroyed) (68, destroyed) (69, destroyed) (70, destroyed) (71, destroyed) (72, destroyed) (73, destroyed) (74, destroyed) (75, destroyed) (76, destroyed) (77, destroyed) (78, destroyed) (79, destroyed) (80, destroyed) (81, destroyed) (82, destroyed) (83, destroyed) (84, destroyed) (85, destroyed) (86, destroyed) (87, destroyed) (88, destroyed) (89, destroyed) (90, destroyed) (91, destroyed) (92, destroyed) (93, destroyed) (94, destroyed) (95, destroyed) (96, destroyed) (97 and 98, destroyed) (99, destroyed) (1 and 2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5 and 6, damaged) (7, damaged) (8, damaged) (9 and 10, damaged) (11, damaged) (12, damaged) (13, damaged) (14, damaged) (15, damaged) (16, damaged) (17, damaged) (1, damaged and abandoned) (2, abandoned) (1 and 2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured)
1 T-80B: (1, destroyed)
410 T-80BV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3 and 4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7 and 8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16 and 17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, abandoned and destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54 and 55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed) (62, destroyed) (63 and 64, destroyed) (65, destroyed) (66, destroyed) (67, destroyed) (68, destroyed) (69, destroyed) (70, destroyed) (71 and 72, destroyed) (73, destroyed) (74, destroyed) (75, destroyed) (76, destroyed) (77, destroyed) (78 and 79, destroyed) (80, destroyed) (81, destroyed) (82 and 83, destroyed) (84, destroyed) (85, destroyed) (86, destroyed) (87, destroyed) (88, destroyed) (89, destroyed) (90, destroyed) (91, destroyed) (92, destroyed) (93, destroyed) (94, destroyed) (95, destroyed) (96, destroyed) (97, destroyed) (98 and 99, destroyed) (100, destroyed) (101, destroyed) (102, destroyed) (103, destroyed) (104, destroyed) (105, destroyed) (106, destroyed) (107, destroyed) (108, destroyed) (109 and 110, destroyed) (111, destroyed) (112, destroyed) (113, destroyed) (114, destroyed) (115, destroyed) (116, destroyed) (117, destroyed) (118, destroyed) (119, destroyed) (120, destroyed) (121, destroyed) (122, destroyed) (123, destroyed) (124, destroyed) (125, destroyed) (126, destroyed) (127 and 128, destroyed) (129, 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7 T-80BV Obr. 2022: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (1, damaged and abandoned)
94 T-80U: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, abandoned and later destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, and 10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, abandoned and destroyed) (34, abandoned and destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (1, damaged) (1, abandoned) (8, abandoned) (3, abandoned) (4, abandoned) (5 abandoned) (6, abandoned) (1, damaged and captured) (2, damaged and captured) (3, captured and stripped) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, 13 and 14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured and stripped) (17 and 18, captured) (19 and 20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, captured) (26, damaged and captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31 and 32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35 and 36, damaged and captured) (37, captured) (38, captured) (39, captured) (40, captured) (41, captured) (42, captured) (43, captured) (44, captured) (45, captured) (46, captured)
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6 T-80UE-1: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured)
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98 T-80BVM: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18 and 19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, captured and later destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (1, damaged and abandoned) (2, damaged and abandoned) (1, damaged and captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, damaged and captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, damaged and captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, damaged and captured) (30, captured and stripped) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured)
5 T-80BVM Obr. 2022: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (1, damaged and abandoned)
8 Unknown T-80: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (1, damaged) (1, abandoned) (1 and 2, captured)
34 T-90A: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, abandoned and later destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (1, damaged) (1, abandoned) (2, damaged and abandoned) (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9 and 10, captured)
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7 T-90S: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3 and 4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (1, damaged and abandoned) (1, captured)
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274 Unknown tank: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23 and 24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37 and 38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58 and 59, destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed) (62, destroyed) (63, destroyed) (64, destroyed) (65, destroyed) (66, destroyed) (67, destroyed) (68, destroyed) (69, destroyed) (70, destroyed) (71, destroyed) (72, destroyed) (73, destroyed) (74, destroyed) (75, destroyed) (76, destroyed) (77 and 78, destroyed) (79, destroyed) (80, destroyed) (81, destroyed) (82, destroyed) (83, destroyed) (84, destroyed) (85, destroyed) (86, destroyed) (87, destroyed) (88, destroyed) (89, destroyed) (90, destroyed) (91, destroyed) (92, destroyed) (93, destroyed) (94, destroyed) (95, destroyed) (96, destroyed) (97, destroyed) (98, destroyed) (99, destroyed) (100, destroyed) (101, destroyed) (102, destroyed) (103, destroyed) (104, destroyed) (105, destroyed) (106 and 107, destroyed) (108, destroyed) (109, 110 and 111, destroyed) (112, destroyed) (113, destroyed) (114, destroyed) (115, destroyed) (116, destroyed) (117 and 118, destroyed) (119, destroyed) (120, destroyed) (121 and 122, destroyed) (123 and 124, destroyed) (125, destroyed) (126, destroyed) (127 and 128, destroyed) (129, destroyed) (130, destroyed) (131, destroyed) (132 and 133, destroyed) (134, destroyed) (135, destroyed) (136, destroyed) (137 and 138, destroyed) (139 and 140, destroyed) (141, destroyed) (142, destroyed) (143, destroyed) (144, destroyed) (145, destroyed) (146, destroyed) (147, destroyed) (148, destroyed) (149, destroyed) (150 and 151, destroyed) (152, destroyed) (153, destroyed) (154, destroyed) (155, destroyed) (156, destroyed) (157, destroyed) (158, destroyed) (159, destroyed) (160, destroyed) (161, destroyed) (162, destroyed) (163, destroyed) (164 and 165, destroyed) (166, destroyed) (167, destroyed) (168, destroyed) (169, destroyed) (170, destroyed) (171, destroyed) (172, destroyed) (173, destroyed) (174, destroyed) (175, destroyed) (176, destroyed) (177, destroyed) (178, destroyed) (179, destroyed) (180, 181, 182 and 183, destroyed) (184, destroyed) (185, destroyed) (186, destroyed) (187, destroyed) (188, destroyed) (189, destroyed) (190, destroyed) (191, destroyed) (192, destroyed) (193, destroyed) (194, destroyed) (195, destroyed) (196, destroyed) (197, destroyed) (198, destroyed) (199, destroyed) (200, destroyed) (201, destroyed) (202, destroyed) (203, destroyed) (204, destroyed) (205, destroyed) (206 and 207, destroyed) (208, destroyed) (209, destroyed) (210, destroyed) (211, destroyed) (212, destroyed) (213, destroyed) (214, destroyed) (215, destroyed) (216, destroyed) (217, destroyed) (218, destroyed) (219, destroyed) (220, destroyed) (221, destroyed) (222, destroyed) (223, destroyed) (224, destroyed) (225, destroyed) (226, destroyed) (227, destroyed) (228, destroyed) (229, destroyed) (230, destroyed) (231, destroyed) (232, destroyed) (233, destroyed) (234, destroyed) (235, destroyed) (236, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (6, damaged) (7, damaged) (8, damaged) (9, damaged) (10, damaged) (11, damaged) (12, damaged) (13, damaged) (14 and 15, damaged) (16, damaged) (17, damaged) (18, damaged) (19, damaged) (20, damaged) (21, damaged) (22, damaged) (23, damaged) (24, damaged) (1, damaged and abandoned) (2, damaged and abandoned) (3, damaged and abandoned) (4, abandoned) (5, abandoned) (6, abandoned) (7 and 8, damaged and abandoned) (9, abandoned) (10 and 11, damaged and abandoned) (12, damaged and abandoned) (13, damaged and abandoned)

It is probably a pretty safe bet that we don't hear much about Ukraine's failings. I remember the news coming out of Vietnam. Always the U.S. casualties were light and heavy damage was inflicted on the enemy. But people I personally knew or knew of were coming back dead or maimed. I could in ten minutes drive to the house of several that were badly disabled in that war not counting the graves I could take you to.

Our government is bad about lying and bad about wasting our lives. This crap could easily get us into actual war with Russia for no good reason. If you haven't watched Rand Paul's little speech, you should.

So, are you thinking Ukraine has the upper hand

You are absolutely retarded. Tdoyka not Hastings.

Tolkadumbass took another couple of pages with his gibberish.

If the crazies in the U.S. government get us into a war with Russia it will be because Russia is trying to keep the 21st century's Bolshevik revolution in the west and out of Russia.

Russia thinks one is plenty.

Yeah, Russia is doing so much better than they were when I was a kid and people were building personal bomb shelters. George Bush and them got along well and we were helping them out in their transition away from communism. I remember we sent dark meat chicken legs over there by the ton. Things were going nicely.

Vladmir implored us and the west to join him in wiping out radical Islam, proposed us getting together as allies. Even Obama derided Mitty Romney for thinking Russia was an enemy.

Then all the sudden with Russia doing well and not causing any trouble internationally we at the behest of some NWO/WEF cabal decided to provoke them by using Ukraine to stir up a war.

All to bring Russia down as an independent entity and take their huge wealth in resources for the afore mentioned NWO/WEF.

Russia for all its faults is a long damn way from being the worst country on earth. It just happens to be wealthy and independent.

"Ukraine’s Military Kills the Head of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet."

Reuters, NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc.

Of course, they guy's not dead, at all.

6 million illegal aliens have entered into the U.S. sites since the war in Ukraine

NYT

The ghost of Crimea!!!! Sounds like toothouston CIA chat bot disinformation

It is, but he reporting agencies have given up what little credibility they had before this propaganda campaign.

Ol' Poof's posts might actually have some credibility, if he let off the fake news tags.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 26, 2023


Riley Bailey, Christina Harward, Grace Mappes, Angelica Evans and Frederick W. Kagan


Key Takeaways:

The tactical situation in Verbove remains unclear as Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations in western Zaporizhia Oblast on September 26.
Likely degraded elements of the Russian 58th Combined Arms Army’s 42nd Motorized Rifle Division are increasingly counterattacking in the Novoprokopivka area, suggesting that Ukrainian counteroffensive operations may have degraded relatively more elite Russian Airborne (VDV) elements that were responsible for counterattacking in the area.
Elements of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division are reportedly deployed as far back as Tokmak, continuing to suggest that the Russian command has not manned the multi-echeloned defense in southern Ukraine in depth.
Interethnic tensions appear to be sowing division between elements of the Russian 42nd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment defending against the Ukrainian counteroffensive in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
Interethnic tensions may also threaten Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov’s broader standing within the Russian political sphere amid an ongoing controversy surrounding Kadyrov’s son.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu discussed ongoing Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) efforts to increase Russian Airborne (VDV) Forces’ combat capabilities and add elements similar to those normally found in motorized rifle units to the VDV, likely to better align VDV elements with their current combat roles in Ukraine.
Russian forces conducted a series of Shahed-131/136 drone strikes on port and military targets in Ukraine on the night of September 25-26.
Russian and Western sources largely claimed that Russian Black Sea Fleet (BSF) Commander Admiral Viktor Sokolov is alive after the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) posted footage of Sokolov allegedly attending a meeting on September 26, although the situation remains unclear at this time.
The Russian MoD has reportedly recruited some former Wagner Group personnel for MoD-affiliated private military companies (PMCs) fighting in Ukraine, while negotiations between the reported Wagner leadership and the Russian National Guard (Rosgvardia) have allegedly stalled over disagreements concerning Wagner’s independence and cohesion.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and reportedly advanced in some areas on September 26.

Tdoyka…Have you ever had an original thought or a post that wasn’t written by someone else or ChatGPT? Your post from earlier was obviously not proofread before you posted it because it was absolutely worthless and virtually unreadable. If you’re trying to make a point or reinforce a point of view you are FAILING epically! Try engaging your brain, assuming you haven’t donated it to Ukraine, and putting into words your position….using others as your mouthpiece is chickenshit retard behavior.

unlike you, i am rooting for Ukraine to win this war. unlike you, i refuse to applaud Putin. unlike you, i don't tolerate Nazi or the communism or authoritarian Putin pukes. all i do is tell the truth about vehicles and airpower, which the Russians had but squandered it in the taking of Kiev and on the Kharkiv Offensive by giving up their tanks, artillery and other military vehicles to Ukraine. unlike you, i'll glady give military equipment to Ukraine to fight Russia. Russia will eventually lose this war. Putin is going to draft 300,000 men later in the year to go to Ukraine. Putin will give arms and early tanks (T53 and 62), no food, ammo that doesn't work and God knows what else. 300,000 untrained boys go to slaughter. 300,000 boys are either wounded or dead. and that is just one year. one of these days, Putin will either be dead from natural causes or there will be another Civil War and Putin will be dead.

in case you are wondering, i am a Independent Right leaning Constitutionalist that used to be a Republican, but after McCain's run, which i did not vote for McCain and Obummer, i left the Republican Party to become a Independent. i voted for Trump twice and next year it will be thrice. the money going into Ukraine should be stopped, but the military equipment will continue.



https://www.sandboxx.us/news/ukraine-is-finally-getting-atacms-the-weapon-that-can-change-the-war/
UKRAINE IS FINALLY GETTING ATACMS, THE WEAPON THAT CAN CHANGE THE WAR
UKRAINE
BY STAVROS ATLAMAZOGLOU
SEPTEMBER 26, 2023


The Ukrainian military will be receiving an advanced missile system that could change the war.

According to reports coming out of the White House, President Joe Biden has given the Pentagon the green light to supply Ukraine with an unspecified number of MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS.

With the Ukrainian counteroffensive gaining momentum, the potential delivery of ATACMS to the Ukrainian military would enable additional deep strikes against the faltering Russian logistical system and other strategic targets.

TIME FOR THE ATACMS
Last week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited the United States for the second time since the Russian invasion of his country. Although this time he didn’t address Congress, Zelensky managed to persuade President Biden of the need to send the Ukrainian military ATACMS munitions.

Ukraine has been trying to get the ballistic missile system for months. The White House’s green light, thus, is a milestone for Ukraine. The U.S. had been hesitant to send the munitions for fear of provoking a Russian escalation and because it only has around 3,000 ATACMS.

The number of ATACMS munitions the U.S. will send to Ukraine will firstly depend on the number of deliveries: If the U.S. is tilting toward one big delivery, then the number of munitions might be smaller compared to a scenario in which the Pentagon sends several waves of ATACMS over the next months.

Another consideration is the status of Ukraine’s artillery arsenal. Ukraine is going through several thousand artillery shells – particularly 155mm rounds – daily and between 150,000 and 200,000 a month. Even though the Pentagon alone has sent Kyiv more than two million 155mm shells, the U.S. and the West are having a very hard time meeting the Ukrainian artillery’s needs. Sending ATACMS munitions would slightly ease the need to send seemingly inexhaustible batches of rounds to Ukraine.

To be sure, the Ukrainians won’t be using precious ATACMS rounds against most targets that 155mm rounds are being used for, but the Ukrainian military could use ATACMS against high-value targets that are also within range of its 155mm guns.


A FORMIDABLE WEAPON
ATACMS testing
Soldiers from the 3rd Battalion, 321st Field Artillery Regiment of the 18th Field Artillery Brigade out of Fort Bragg NC, visited the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico to conduct reliability tests of early versions of the Army Tactical Missile System, December 2021. (Photo by John Hamilton/White Sands Missile Range Public Affairs)
The ATACMS is a series of short-range, surface-to-surface ballistic missiles that have been in service for more than three decades.

Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) started working on what would eventually become the ATACMS back in the 1970s as part of the Assault Breaker program with the goal of developing deep-strike munitions. The U.S. military first used them in anger against the forces of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during the First Gulf War in 1991.

The U.S. will likely send either the Block 1 or Block 1A ATACMS to Ukraine.

Weighting almost 3,700 pounds, the older Block 1 version has a range of up to 103 miles and can carry a single warhead of up to 1,250 pounds. The main available Block 1 warhead is essentially a big cluster munition that can pack almost 1,000 M74 bomblets that are designed to kill and maim enemy infantry and destroy weapon systems through blast and fragmentation.

The newer Block 1A version has a similar weight but a much longer range which depends on the warhead it packs. It can either carry a cluster warhead with 300 M74 bomblets for a range of 186 miles or a unitary high explosive 350-pound warhead for a range of 168 miles.


The M57A1 Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missile is fired over the cab of an M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System launcher, June 2012. (U.S. Army photo)
Cluster munitions have proven extremely effective on the ground, and even the Russian military leadership is warning about the danger. An ATACMS Block 1 strike against a concentrated large Russian force could completely wipe it out and stop an offensive or counteroffensive in its tracks.

On the other hand, a Block 1A with a high explosive unitary warhead can take out a whole Russian command and control element or targets of similar importance in a single strike.

In the current battlefield, Block 1 ATACMS munitions can reach almost all of Russian-occupied Ukraine. The longer-ranged Block A1 ATACMS missiles can also reach the southern parts of the Crimean Peninsula, as well as portions of Russia.

ATACMS munitions are solid-propellant fueled and have internal GPS systems to ensure pinpoint accuracy.

The ATACMS can be fired by either the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) or the M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS). The Ukrainian military has used both the M142 HIMARS and M270 MLRS to great effect in the war, taking out a considerable amount of Russian logistical nodes, fortified positions, troop concentrations, important infrastructure, and high-value targets.

Lmfao….tdoyka, I know you’ve heard it all your life but once again you FAIL!….you fail miserably in your guesses, you fail in your assumptions and you fail with your assessment…..which was nothing more than a chickenshit cut and paste…again! Retard.

If you weren’t such a retarded failure you’d know that the last country I’d ever root for is Russia….you don’t know that because you’re a dipshit and a failure that either can’t or won’t read exactly what the position others hold on Ukraine actually is. Instead it’s easier for a dumbfuck like you to lie about my position than it is to debate me on my position.

Just because I don’t GAF about Ukraine does NOT mean that I want Russia to win because I DON’T! I don’t GAF about Russia or Ukraine and I draw no distinction between them. For time immemorial Ukraine has been a part of Russia but the last 30 years they’ve tried to establish a country and they have mostly failed, like YOU, at living up to expectations. They’ve established a failed pseudo-country, a kleptocracy that is unworthy of recognition or legitimacy on the world stage.

Since you, tdoyka, and your leftist pals are so worried about the sanctity of sovereign borders and since you “guys” get so emotional over the violation of that sanctity do you think you “guys” could feign some outrage at our southern border and the unfettered illegal invasion that is being ignored? You dumbfucks are so worried about Ukrainian borders and Ukrainian freedom that you’ll completely ignore the irreversible damage being done by your dipshit butt buddies here in the greatest nation on earth.

The White House has put out a letter with a list of demands Ukraine has to fulfill to receive further aid.

The "DELIBERATIVE // PRE-DECISIONAL WORKING DRAFT – SUBJECT TO REVIEW" five page letter includes the "Priority Reform List - Reforms Linked to Conditions on U.S. Assistance".

It demands a complete reform of major Ukrainian power structures and the insertion of designated foreign personnel. It sets 3, 6 and 12 month limits for certain reforms to be achieved.

IOW a graft consolidation plan. Too many hogs in the trough split the slop too many ways.

tdoyka: Consider that you may be being given misleading or outright false (dis)information.

Where is all that machinery we have already sent to Ukraine?

lol. ok toot's sock puppet