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To be honest I never really looked at one of these with the thought of owning one. Then I spotted one on GI and looked it over. I was smitten with it. But, as usual, I kept procrastinating. Next thing you know the bayonet was gone and the price dropped. Now I wasn't so interested. If I was going to buy one I wanted a complete one. I really had no idea how to proceed so I forgot all about it. I messaged a member here as I do frequently just to talk and lo and behold HE was the owner of the MHG. We talked and made a deal and bow it lives in NH. There are some peculiarities about this one that I will solve one step at a time.

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Timing and luck..........

Congratulations!


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Beautiful, is that the Reddings gun Stephen?


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Originally Posted by Poconojack
Beautiful, is that the Reddings gun Stephen?

No. Private sale from a member here. I couldn't be happier. Rack # 420


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Notman gun? If so, I can tell you some details.


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You better hunt that!


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That is beyond cool!


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Originally Posted by 300jimmy
You better hunt that!

Trust me I would like too, but truth is the only way I could is to put an tang sight on it and honestly I don't think my eyes would cope with that.


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You could be the first to take one with a BAYONET! No sights required. laugh laugh wink


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Congrats Steve! Great gun.


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Very cool! Love it.


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Originally Posted by Rick99
You could be the first to take one with a BAYONET! No sights required. laugh laugh wink

laugh

Seriously, congrats on a superb snag.


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Congrats Steve.

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Congrats again Stephen. Very nice find.

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Wow nice grab buddy! Congrads!


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Is it legal to take turkeys in NH with a bayonet?

I mean.. I want video. grin


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Very Nice! Congrats.

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In the words of a GREAT man from Maine, it's ONLY a gun. Stop your damn drooling and wipe up. I will have another question once I find the picture I am looking for.

It didn't take long to find the picture. Look at picture # 3. I thought the general assumption was that Sav 30 was 30-30 Win. Was there EVER a time when Sav 30 was indeed .303 Sav? When I first saw that (BEFORE I bought it) I questioned it. I was assured the rifle was .303 Savage. The first thing I did was to load 5 factory rounds in the magazine. It loaded and ejected all 5 slicker than slime on a doorknob. I have actually talked to others other who's are stamped 303. Am I or we missing something?

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Originally Posted by Rick99
You could be the first to take one with a BAYONET! No sights required. laugh laugh wink
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Never mind, I'm on ignore. I'll keep what I know to myself. LOL


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Interesting markings on that guns barrel.

Any other provenance on the gun that you know of? Including the butt stock letters which I presume spell a name?


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Great snag. I am sure you will get lots of enjoyment out of it.
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There is an extra ring of metal added to the front of the receiver that holds the rear of the top forearm wood. Are you sure that the last 3 is not under that ring?

The early MHG rifles did not have a caliber stamped where you could see it. After 1654xx they are marked on top of the receiver ring. Wonder how may have had the .303 British round poked in them? Luckily the round is too long.


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The only other one I have seen was stamped .303 Sav all visible. As I said, I loaded and cycled 5 rounds of factory .303 Sav with 0 issues. I did not remove the wood to look, not do I intend to. It will remain a mystery.


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It looks like the last 3 is just covered by the shadow of the rear band, the font is not correct for the early SAV 30 stamp, it's the standard 303 style, and it's farther forward than the SAV 30 stamps were.

Added, tried to get a bigger picture attached, top is a SAV 30, middle LBK's and bottom another MHG with the caliber also on the receiver ring.

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Originally Posted by GeneB
It looks like the last 3 is just covered by the shadow of the rear band, the font is not correct for the early SAV 30 stamp, it's the standard 303 style, and it's farther forward than the SAV 30 stamps were.

Added, tried to get a bigger picture attached, top is a SAV 30, middle LBK's and bottom another MHG with the caliber also on the receiver ring.

Thank you, Gene. As I said the only info I have is picture # 3. I do know for sure the chamber is .303 and the wood is in place, not to be removed by me


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I fired that rifle with 303 Savage ammo when I owned it.

Oh, there I go again trying to help. Must stop doing that.

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I'm in Gene's camp on this. The other thing I'll toss in is, if I'm not mistaken (no books with me), that the barrel address on it was used from about SN 100k to 200k, so that barrel does not date to the timeframe the SAV 30 stamp was used.

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Congratulations Steve. Is this Nan's new gun? When you are up this way ii sure would like to see it.

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Originally Posted by stanme
Congratulations Steve. Is this Nan's new gun? When you are up this way ii sure would like to see it.


A BIG thank you to you.

We need to get up that way soon. Nan and I are deer hunting mid November on Anticosti. It's a tough time of the year to squeeze in a trip with the holidays. I will give you a call when it happens. I'd love to show it to you.


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Congrats on a sweet pickup. I am very happy it's in a great home.


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Great find,i hope you get many years of enjoyment out of it.

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Originally Posted by KeithNyst
I'm in Gene's camp on this. The other thing I'll toss in is, if I'm not mistaken (no books with me), that the barrel address on it was used from about SN 100k to 200k, so that barrel does not date to the timeframe the SAV 30 stamp was used.

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Issue SOLVED. I removed the upper wood. And Gene was right.


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Terrific. You will sleep well tonight.

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Congrats on a sweet pickup. I am very happy it's in a great home.

Thanks, Jim.


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Originally Posted by 99guy
Interesting markings on that guns barrel.

Any other provenance on the gun that you know of? Including the butt stock letters which I presume spell a name?
Yes, there is other provenance, check out the 4th or 5th post. The letters spell Notman.

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Do the muster rolls of the Montreal Home Guard exist? Would be neat to confirm the name on the stock to a member of same.

Again, Stephen, excellent great snag.


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Yes, there is other provenance, check out the 4th or 5th post. The letters spell Notman.

There used to be, not anymore. F him.


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Why would anyone go out of their way to help someone that has them on ignore, takes them off ignore to send them a message, then puts them back on ignore.


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I owned one about 12 years ago, if I remember the .303 was in plain sight, had kept it a number of years looking for the bayonet, finally sold the MHG to Savage collector in Mason, Tx. at the Fredericksburg gun show, same place I sold a engraved 22hp, to a seller that listed it on G I

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Don't know about a roster. I looked up the name of the guy who had owned my MHG. He was a prominent business man in Montreal but it didn't say anything about him being in the guard. He was the right age, early 40's.


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Very nice Steve. It would look great in a rack in the back window of your pickup. grin


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Originally Posted by Skidrow
Very nice Steve. It would look great in a rack in the back window of your pickup. grin

Thanks George. Nice to hear from a friendly voice.


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Very nice Steve. It would look great in a rack in the back window of your pickup. grin

Thanks George. Nice to hear from a friendly voice.



good grab Steve , i have been away for 4 weeks, I also just picked one up 1684xx forget rack number . i need to finish paying before i bring it home.

If you need more info get hold of Trix99, he has about all the info you need . Accordinf to Blair trix99 , if the ingraving is on the side of the reciever that denotes that the owner was probable an officer just a name on the wood would be more like a private..

I did not get a Bayonet with mine but do have the original silng and sight hood,

again congrates on grabing one.

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Very nice Steve. It would look great in a rack in the back window of your pickup. grin

Thanks George. Nice to hear from a friendly voice.



good grab Steve , i have been away for 4 weeks, I also just picked one up 1684xx forget rack number . i need to finish paying before i bring it home.

If you need more info get hold of Trix99, he has about all the info you need . Accordinf to Blair trix99 , if the ingraving is on the side of the reciever that denotes that the owner was probable an officer just a name on the wood would be more like a private..

I did not get a Bayonet with mine but do have the original silng and sight hood,

again congrates on grabing one.

norm

Thank you, Norm. I will get in touch with Blair. I have talked extensively to Joe (Maddog) about it and he has been helpful. I am happy you found one as well. Most likely I paid too much but got a heck of a good price considering the original asking price. I am happy.


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This is a sweet rifle congratulations!!! I know if we were to add one like this Kurt would be drooling also !!!

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