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Phil is a very big man ?
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Originally Posted by CharlieSisk
Phil is a very big man ?
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Isn’t he? I’m going by pictures. Have never met him personally but have the impression he’s a very large, strong guy.

To my main point; for me, the .416 Ruger in an Alaskan model is the sweet spot in my limited experience for the power/controllable factor. .458 knocks me around noticeably.

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Do you know a feller named Brian Shaw ? Worlds strongest man several times. Phil is about his size. laugh laugh laugh


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So...

I don’t need to go back, to change my original statement & deny I stupidly said it...

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I heard that Chuck Norris is afraid of Phil....


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“Karamoja” Bell’s favorite big game round was a Rigby .275 (i.e a 7x57mm Mauser). He knew how and where to shoot while facing charging game that was 10 to 12 ft tall and mounting to tonnage at close quarters (elephant). His theory was calm and accurate placement as opposed bullet mass.

He also thought cape buffalo were pretty wimpy.

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Mule Deer...... I agree 100 percent! As much as I cherish my custom 26" barreled .270 Win., I would prefer my 9.3 x 62. The heavier bullets and larger caliber with that extra authority would make me feel much safer. We know the .270 can do it. I did it with a .270 as a young man at age 21. BUT, still!


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Mule Deer...... I agree 100 percent! As much as I cherish my custom 26" barreled .270 Win., I would prefer my 9.3 x 62. The heavier bullets and larger caliber with that extra authority would make me feel much safer. We know the .270 can do it. I did it with a .270 as a young man at age 21. BUT, still!


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Originally Posted by CharlieSisk
Phil is a very big man ?
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Phil's close my size. I would guess around 5-8 and 175.


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Phil told us a lot over a period of years, most of the technically relevent stuff forgotten in these threads.

Being a huge .458 user and log time fan of that round I recall he, as I, favored the 400gn Barnes X bullet as did others in the 90's until you ran out. After that he experimented and mentioned settling on 500grainers backed off to around 2000fps which is a good way to manage recoil for repeat shots where necessary.

Either the 400 or 500gn (or more) weighted bullets hit game hard enough to often see a visual sign that that animal is in trouble and that certainly can influence your speed in cycling the next round.

Big cartridges were what I considered a challenge to master and the proof being tight groups whenever you shoot and never a miss, or wild shot amiss on game. Phil is there and has the experience to know the outcome. Its good advice.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Phil is a very big man ?
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Phil's close my size. I would guess around 5-8 and 175.


Well, in my eyes you’re both 10 feet tall. Deeds count for a lot.

(More materially factual, together you ARE 11’ 4”)

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I hope nobody’s gonna tell me Charlie Sisk isn’t 7’ 9”...

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Charlie Sisk is 10 feet tall and bullet proof....or he will be in an hour or so when he gets ahold of that bottle of Maker's....or it gets ahold of him.. grin


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Originally Posted by 1minute
“Karamoja” Bell’s favorite big game round was a Rigby .275 (i.e a 7x57mm Mauser). He knew how and where to shoot while facing charging game that was 10 to 12 ft tall and mounting to tonnage at close quarters (elephant). His theory was calm and accurate placement as opposed bullet mass.

He also thought cape buffalo were pretty wimpy.


And there it is 😂

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Well, Bella Twin has been mentioned. How far can we be from a Karamojo Bell sighting in this thread?

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Charlie, my impression is Phil is a big guy whose body mass may help him absorb the .458 Win recoil better than a normal man. However, he may be a normal guy who is tougher than nails and can take the punishment!

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Yeah...Phil is not a big man...tougher than a pine knot though...


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Originally Posted by CharlieSisk
Charlie Sisk is 10 feet tall and bullet proof....or he will be in an hour or so when he gets ahold of that bottle of Maker's....or it gets ahold of him.. grin

Kind of like …. God made men, but Samuel Colt made them equal.


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Originally Posted by roanmtn
Charlie, my impression is Phil is a big guy whose body mass may help him absorb the .458 Win recoil better than a normal man. However, he may be a normal guy who is tougher than nails and can take the punishment!

Body mass does not necessarily help recoil resistance. In fact, some theorize that less body mass allows the shooter to "roll" more easily with recoil, thus reducing pain. Elmer Keith is one possible example, but another might be Coni Brooks, who with her husband Randy owned/ran Barnes Bullets for years until retiring 14 years ago.

Coni isn't much over five feet tall, and trim. She used the .338 Winchester Magnum as her big game rifle for anything smaller than Cape buffalo for many years, with notable success. (For the really big stuff she preferred a large-caliber double rifle, a .500 of some sort if I recall correctly.)


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Originally Posted by GrouseChaser
Chuck Jonkel, a long-time bear biologist in western Montana, once killed a radio collared bear he was looking for and got accidentally too close. She came boiling over a log pile at him at close range. All he had was a fully loaded Colt Woodsman .22 pistol, and she dropped on his last shot through the eye into the brain. I never heard the size of the grizzly.
I remember Chuck, I remember he spent some time in th B.C's Flathead Valley( north fork). In the 80's

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