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A few things.
Get your Cub Scouts each a Balaclava just for sleeping in. Make it loose fitting. Balaclavas tend to work better than just a typical watch cap, as those usually come off as you sleep. You lose a bunch of body heat through your head, so cover it. Dry it out during the day. Don't use the same one during the day, as you do at night, since the one you use during the day will have absorbed a bunch of moisture from use.
Plus have them wearing very large, oversized socks when they are in their bags. All their sleeping clothes, underwear needs to be loose fitting.
Before bed, take a Nalgene bottle and fill it full of hot/boing water and put it in the bottom of the bag. This will help a lot with cold feet. A second one can be used around the core of your body.
Get them each a pee bottle so they don't have to leave the tent. If the temps are very cold, sometimes it is pretty hard to get warm again, after you have gone outside, so stay in the tent.
Hope some of this helps. Pee bottle for kids? They don't pee often like we old fellers!
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https://www.bigagnes.com/products/sidewinder-camp-20I have this bag. As others said I don’t know if a 20 degree bag would be warm enough at 20 degrees. Big Agnes bags are made in Colorado.
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Military sleep system has a 20° bag that's pretty good, made in Murica also. 20° black bagJust find an Army/Navy surplus store.. Bag will be American made and well worth what you pay for them. About 2007 to 2010, I finally had to get rid of one that was made in 1947, got out of my dad's mobility bag before he turned it in, back in 1967. I replaced it with another one from the Army/Navy store. Have one for down to 20 degrees and another for down to 30 below. I've been in all sorts of weather with these, all over the nation, to include high altitude camping with Scouting. Several times in NoDakota, I've had to spend the night in the vehicle due to weather, more than comfortable and warm at even 45 below... one bag, covered by the other. tougher than anything you can buy at Walmart or any other store for that matter. and made in the USA.
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20 deg bag isn't warm enough for me @20 deg. Gonna need some clothes on in that bag.
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Big Agnes is headquartered in Steamboat Springs. None of their manufacturing is in North America.
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Many better bags are rated by the European standard now. It gives a more accurate comparison. When they give a rating, it’s the temperature where the bag will keep you alive, not warm. You need to add 15 to 20 degrees for a comfort zone.
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Have you looked on the Sierra Trading Post site?
They often have close-outs and discontinued items that are pretty good if you're not picky about the color.
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Colman's Big & Tall Rectangular Bags LinkGet 15% off your first order when you sign up for Email or Text messages. Phil
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Klymit we got ours at Costco good bag
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They just delivered four of these Coleman Big & Tall rectangular Dunnock™ Cold Weather Sleeping Bags... got a 15% discount on them. Take a 3" twin memory gel cell mattress topper and zip it up in the sleeping bag, and place the whole thing inside a mattress cover. They make great beds for the dogs instead of laying on the cold floor. They'll be sleeping good tonight. Way better than what they make for dog pads, and not much more expensive.
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Get close and wack em hard!
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Add a heavy wool blanket if you can find one from the military surplus store. I still have my fathers from 1945. Add a big heavy down comforter to the mix. Worked for us in 1975 Yellowstone trip when the temps hit around 20 degrees.
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Get the older style US Army Extreme Cold bag. It's down and I've never got cold in one. You can get them one ebay for $100-$150 or surplus store.
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Get the older style US Army Extreme Cold bag. It's down and I've never got cold in one. You can get them one ebay for $100-$150 or surplus store. I haven't seen one in 50 years but the army used to have a casualty bag. It was a big, bulky down bag with a fur hood and a zipper that could be laid wide open to get an injured man inside. They were super warm and very much in demand. It seemed like only medics with some rank could get their hands on them without being shot first.
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For what you are describing I'd go with a 0 degree bag. In my experience sleeping bags never live up to their rating. I always add 20degrees to what I expect. Finding something not made in China will be a chore. Campmor.com has a bunch lf bags to chose from.
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Kelty cosmic 20 degree down model used to be a good one, no idea if still made or where. I've used this below 20F but was cold. Added a poncho liner and was GTG.
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I wanted a bag that I could stay warm at 20* so I got a Wiggys 0*. If I wanted a 0* bag I’d get a -20*.
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