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I'm not yet convinced that powder weight consistency produces more accurate ammo than powder volume consistency. In other words, it seems that rounds loaded by simply throwing powder charges from the powder measure are at least as accurate and consistent as loads trickled up to a common weight. I need to do a LOT more shooting to prove this out for sure though. just go talk to benchrest shooters. they've been doing it a long time..... no research needed
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I also drop slightly under and trickle to the target .
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With the Redding measures, they drop on the upstroke and fill in the down position. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/uvciY2ah.jpg) Not if you reverse the operating lever like I have on mine.
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I'm not yet convinced that powder weight consistency produces more accurate ammo than powder volume consistency. In other words, it seems that rounds loaded by simply throwing powder charges from the powder measure are at least as accurate and consistent as loads trickled up to a common weight. I need to do a LOT more shooting to prove this out for sure though. just go talk to benchrest shooters. they've been doing it a long time..... no research needed I haven't followed what goes on in the world of benchrest for quite some time, but I seem to recall that there was a period of time when charging by volume was finding more favor with the BR crowd than by weight. If I had to guess, I'd say in the early to mid-80s. Whether that is still the case I can't say.
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I'm not yet convinced that powder weight consistency produces more accurate ammo than powder volume consistency. In other words, it seems that rounds loaded by simply throwing powder charges from the powder measure are at least as accurate and consistent as loads trickled up to a common weight. I need to do a LOT more shooting to prove this out for sure though. just go talk to benchrest shooters. they've been doing it a long time..... no research needed What are your thoughts on it?
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While I do tend to use short stick powders and ball powders to maximize consistency with my old Redding measure, I agree with gregintenn.
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I have an MVA, a Harrel. And an old Lyman55.
All are capable of throwing accurately enough so I can shoot Vbulls at 800 eith Varget if I am consistent in the way I throw the charge .
I don't worry too much about weighing my charges because the wind call makes a much greater difference when it comes to scoring 15 rounds well.
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Yep!
Plus, measuring charges is much faster for loading larger amounts of ammo than all but the most expensive electronic measures/scales.
Don't know how many times handloaders have claimed that they "save" time with typical e-measures/scales by seating a bullet while the next charge is being measured. Did some time/motion studies years ago, when I was loading and shooting around 8000 rounds a year, and a good mechanical measure won by a large margin....
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With the Redding measures, they drop on the upstroke and fill in the down position. I picked up some consistency with my 3BR by adding a spring loaded ball and detent to the drum that keeps it in the 'dump' (up) position rather than having it come back down. Has helped several other 3BR's and BR30's that I've done this to. As far as measures, this is the best I've ever owned. After a little tweaking they are really good. What type of tweaking is required with the B&M?
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i grew up with an uncle named Stanley Peterson and a very good friend Johnny Bell who i hunted and fished with, both worked together at Federal Cartridge uncle was an engineer , mechanical . Jonny was a manager, engineer ,machinist both work there over 35 years both knew plenty about reloading and powder. the way i was explained too is powder does not weigh exact but it comes out closer by volume loading they did plenty testing at Federal. also when i bench rest shot against some very good shooters most used a Harrel powder measure and some of us used Redding BR powder measures , no one at these matches ever weighed powder. Pete53
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