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I see the functionality of the stock is missed on some people and this is probably people that really don't shoot much. one of the biggest shortcomings of the first generation is the stock is way too low on the cheek piece area for the height of the rail. now you can buy some different attachments and get rid of the rail and help the situation but you need to carefully mount Scopes to line up and have a good cheek weild.. whether you like the appearance or not is personal preference I reckon but there is some of that is very practical. but if you shoot five shots a year you probably don't understand..
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I see the functionality of the stock is missed on some people and this is probably people that really don't shoot much. one of the biggest shortcomings of the first generation is the stock is way too low on the cheek piece area for the height of the rail. now you can buy some different attachments and get rid of the rail and help the situation but you need to carefully mount Scopes to line up and have a good cheek weild.. whether you like the appearance or not is personal preference I reckon but there is some of that is very practical. but if you shoot five shots a year you probably don't understand.. Exactly
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I like it and it does have some true improvements. Well done Ruger.👍
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I see the functionality of the stock is missed on some people and this is probably people that really don't shoot much. one of the biggest shortcomings of the first generation is the stock is way too low on the cheek piece area for the height of the rail. now you can buy some different attachments and get rid of the rail and help the situation but you need to carefully mount Scopes to line up and have a good cheek weild.. whether you like the appearance or not is personal preference I reckon but there is some of that is very practical. but if you shoot five shots a year you probably don't understand.. Would look better if dropped in a Magpul stock.
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I see the functionality of the stock is missed on some people and this is probably people that really don't shoot much. one of the biggest shortcomings of the first generation is the stock is way too low on the cheek piece area for the height of the rail. now you can buy some different attachments and get rid of the rail and help the situation but you need to carefully mount Scopes to line up and have a good cheek weild.. whether you like the appearance or not is personal preference I reckon but there is some of that is very practical. but if you shoot five shots a year you probably don't understand.. Would look better if dropped in a Magpul stock. I also have a few of them. and they work at their best with the AI magazines
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Some serious turd polishing going on there...
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Some serious turd polishing going on there... of anybody I figured you would be appreciative do some of the advances they made.. to e each their own...
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LGS just ordered one in 7-08 already sold it before it came in. Luckily Ill get to shoot it some, buddy bought it.
I picked up a Gen1 SS 7-08 off here that shoots better than any 7-08 Ive had except Tikka
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Some serious turd polishing going on there... of anybody I figured you would be appreciative do some of the advances they made.. to e each their own... If I saw any advances, I would appreciate them....
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I wonder what the barrel length is without the break, I’d just put a thread protector on it but don’t want a sub20 barrel
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Ruger really should've just went stainless. As for the stock I'm betting it's much better that the original. Safety looks like a nice upgrade. Cost is too high for what it is.
They're offering some new 77 Hawkeye. FTW model for lefties. MSRP is at $1999🙄.
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I keep hoping and emailing them about an “American” in the hornet family of cartridges but once again no dice. I’m probably the oddball who wants an entry level 17H (but not a savage).
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I see the functionality of the stock is missed on some people and this is probably people that really don't shoot much. one of the biggest shortcomings of the first generation is the stock is way too low on the cheek piece area for the height of the rail. now you can buy some different attachments and get rid of the rail and help the situation but you need to carefully mount Scopes to line up and have a good cheek weild.. whether you like the appearance or not is personal preference I reckon but there is some of that is very practical. but if you shoot five shots a year you probably don't understand.. No doubt the stock is too low with the rail, so I eliminated the rail and all is fine.
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They are going to sell a gazillion of the 450BM and 350L rifles. Gen 1's are in every household here in Michigan already, I can't imagine how many Gen 2's will be sold, based on the upgrades and looks alone.
All of the competitors in that "budget" rifle market better step it up or they are going to be screwed.
I really think some of you guys living in the western states don't understand the sheer number of straight wall rifles that are sold here in the Great Lakes area. It's way more than the standard calibers. Michigan alone is selling $600,000 deer licenses a year, staggering number.
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223 and 5.56 are twisted 1:8. I could see me buying a Ranch model in 5.56 or one of the ARCs.
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Some serious turd polishing going on there... of anybody I figured you would be appreciative do some of the advances they made.. to e each their own... If I saw any advances, I would appreciate them.... If I wanted a straight wall case Ruger I'd have gotten the #1 in .450 BM.
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Your link doesn’t work, I couldn’t find any good looking guns in this one…
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Your link doesn’t work, I couldn’t find any good looking guns in this one… You are on a roll!
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They are going to sell a gazillion of the 450BM and 350L rifles. Gen 1's are in every household here in Michigan already, I can't imagine how many Gen 2's will be sold, based on the upgrades and looks alone.
All of the competitors in that "budget" rifle market better step it up or they are going to be screwed.
I really think some of you guys living in the western states don't understand the sheer number of straight wall rifles that are sold here in the Great Lakes area. It's way more than the standard calibers. Michigan alone is selling $600,000 deer licenses a year, staggering number. Probably not many. The 450s have been out several years, and in Michigan many variations and special runs were/are available through Randy's in Bad Axe. Ruger screwed the 350s by using AR mags, and butchering the bolt body to make the mag work. If they don't change the magazine to a simple plastic stack magazine like the 450 uses, there will be no draw for new buyers. Most hunters don't want AR or AICS magazines to hunt with. How many that already have 350s and 450s are going to sell them to buy the Gen2 or just buy a Gen2 as a second one? Maybe some, but not a lot. Yes, the new 400 is cataloged now by Ruger. 2 models, again probably using AR magazines. Another fail. In another month, Winchester will announce probably 20+ different variations in 400 Legend. Savage and Mossberg 400s are already out on shelves. The competition has no worries. In fact, the competition will probably get more sales because of these new Ruger models. Winchester also introduced left hand 350 models, and will have a left hand 400. Something Ruger has refused to do.
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I was thinking the gen 1 was getting pricey for what they were, & the gen II uglier & up $110.
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