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Here's the exact quote from JOC regarding why he's seen more animals killed with the 7x57:

"Yet I think I have seen more game killed with fewer shots from this modest little cartridge than with any other. The explanation for its deadly efficiency does not lie in blinding velocity, in big bullets, in a frightening number of foot pounds of energy. It lies in the light recoil, coupled with the excellent hunting accuracy of so many 7×57s. Those who use it are not afraid of it and, as a consequence, they tend to shoot it well—and to place their shots well. In case no one has told you, the most important factor in killing power is putting that bullet in the right spot."

That is from this article: https://gundigest.com/more/classic-guns/forty-years-little-7mm

As JB and lots of others have mentioned, it all boils down to not being afraid of the cartridge (i.e. recoil, muzzle blast, etc.), and with today's bullets it's arguable whether or not a "Loud-n-Boomer" is even necessary for the majority of game most of us hunt. Now, if someone "wants" to hunt and shoot his L-n-B, that's an entirely different issue.


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Wow! This doof called me stupid. Oh well, I can get over it. 😏

He’s concerned someone might be misled over an article written 30 plus years ago where there was a comparison made between two different but somewhat similar cartridges. He seems very concerned over a quote made in the article by the author from another author who also compared the two cartridges. The fact that both of these esteemed writers on the subject are both long ago deceased, seems to make no difference in the voracity of his disdain.

And he thinks I am the stupid one. 😳😄

He's probably a biden voter..... wink
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Originally Posted by RevMike
Here's the exact quote from JOC regarding why he's seen more animals killed with the 7x57:

"Yet I think I have seen more game killed with fewer shots from this modest little cartridge than with any other. The explanation for its deadly efficiency does not lie in blinding velocity, in big bullets, in a frightening number of foot pounds of energy. It lies in the light recoil, coupled with the excellent hunting accuracy of so many 7×57s. Those who use it are not afraid of it and, as a consequence, they tend to shoot it well—and to place their shots well. In case no one has told you, the most important factor in killing power is putting that bullet in the right spot."

That is from this article: https://gundigest.com/more/classic-guns/forty-years-little-7mm

As JB and lots of others have mentioned, it all boils down to not being afraid of the cartridge (i.e. recoil, muzzle blast, etc.), and with today's bullets it's arguable whether or not a "Loud-n-Boomer" is even necessary for the majority of game most of us hunt. Now, if someone "wants" to hunt and shoot his L-n-B, that's an entirely different issue.
RevMike, that particular article you have quoted is a shortened and modified version of the article I referred to- The 7 x 57: Cartridge with Nine Lives. The exact quote you refer to is not the exact quote in the article I refer to. I have a hardcopy in front of me, but it would be an infringement of copyright to post it.

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Here's the exact quote from JOC regarding why he's seen more animals killed with the 7x57:

"Yet I think I have seen more game killed with fewer shots from this modest little cartridge than with any other. The explanation for its deadly efficiency does not lie in blinding velocity, in big bullets, in a frightening number of foot pounds of energy. It lies in the light recoil, coupled with the excellent hunting accuracy of so many 7×57s. Those who use it are not afraid of it and, as a consequence, they tend to shoot it well—and to place their shots well. In case no one has told you, the most important factor in killing power is putting that bullet in the right spot."

That is from this article: https://gundigest.com/more/classic-guns/forty-years-little-7mm

As JB and lots of others have mentioned, it all boils down to not being afraid of the cartridge (i.e. recoil, muzzle blast, etc.), and with today's bullets it's arguable whether or not a "Loud-n-Boomer" is even necessary for the majority of game most of us hunt. Now, if someone "wants" to hunt and shoot his L-n-B, that's an entirely different issue.
RevMike, that particular article you have quoted is a shortened and modified version of the article I referred to- The 7 x 57: Cartridge with Nine Lives. The exact quote you refer to is not the exact quote in the article I refer to. I have a hardcopy in front of me, but it would be an infringement of copyright to post it.

So,do you have any real experience or just book experience?


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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
RevMike, that particular article you have quoted is a shortened and modified version of the article I referred to- The 7 x 57: Cartridge with Nine Lives. The exact quote you refer to is not the exact quote in the article I refer to. I have a hardcopy in front of me, but it would be an infringement of copyright to post it.

Interesting. Not to hijack the thread, but is that from a magazine or one of his books?


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
RevMike, that particular article you have quoted is a shortened and modified version of the article I referred to- The 7 x 57: Cartridge with Nine Lives. The exact quote you refer to is not the exact quote in the article I refer to. I have a hardcopy in front of me, but it would be an infringement of copyright to post it.

Interesting. Not to hijack the thread, but is that from a magazine or one of his books?
You can find it in Hunting on Three Continents with Jack O'Connor Volume 1.

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You're welcome.

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I'll prolly hunt with my 270 some, this next hunting season.


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This is more of a question than a statement. However, I seem to remember that in subsequent years, Aagard settled on the 7mm-08 as his favorite. I don't remember him ever repenting his opinions on other chamberings, but 7mm-08 IIRC was his final favorite.


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Originally Posted by shaman
This is more of a question than a statement. However, I seem to remember that in subsequent years, Aagard settled on the 7mm-08 as his favorite. I don't remember him ever repenting his opinions on other chamberings, but 7mm-08 IIRC was his final favorite.

Makes sense, he had great taste. wink

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Originally Posted by shaman
This is more of a question than a statement. However, I seem to remember that in subsequent years, Aagard settled on the 7mm-08 as his favorite. I don't remember him ever repenting his opinions on other chamberings, but 7mm-08 IIRC was his final favorite.

7mm-08 East of the Mississippi.... 270 West of the Mississippi


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Originally Posted by irfubar
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This is more of a question than a statement. However, I seem to remember that in subsequent years, Aagard settled on the 7mm-08 as his favorite. I don't remember him ever repenting his opinions on other chamberings, but 7mm-08 IIRC was his final favorite.

7mm-08 East of the Mississippi.... 270 West of the Mississippi

Sounds like a great plan.

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I have hunted considerably with the 7mm-08 and .270 Winchester both east and west of the Mississippi--along with the 7x57, .308 Winchester and some other similar rounds. Have yet to find a discernible difference in the field--at least at the ranges where Finn shot big game.

I also knew Finn, but eventually got to know Berit better after Finn passed away. From what I recall (which partly comes from reading his writing) he eventually picked the .308 as most practical, but also recall that Berit's first left-handed bolt rifle (she's left-handed) was a 7mm-08.


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Originally Posted by shaman
This is more of a question than a statement. However, I seem to remember that in subsequent years, Aagard settled on the 7mm-08 as his favorite. I don't remember him ever repenting his opinions on other chamberings, but 7mm-08 IIRC was his final favorite.

Nope. He played with the 7-08, but as John says, the 308 Win was where he settled. In fact, his last article published posthumously, was on the 308 Win.


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Way cool.

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I’ve got some more. But that’s one of my favorite 270 hunts.

Nice. I do like my carbon bbl 270. 129lrx and 145 Eldx.

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Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by shaman
This is more of a question than a statement. However, I seem to remember that in subsequent years, Aagard settled on the 7mm-08 as his favorite. I don't remember him ever repenting his opinions on other chamberings, but 7mm-08 IIRC was his final favorite.

Nope. He played with the 7-08, but as John says, the 308 Win was where he settled. In fact, his last article published posthumously, was on the 308 Win.
Now that is an article I'd like to read.


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