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Cert, you aren't the only one that happens to. I am in total agreement with you though. I've seen that a bunch of times. Like I told you in the other thread, my girlfriend and I went over to the 100 yard range and rang steel with the 10/22 clone, while waiting for the 50 yard bench to open up. I was ringing the 2" diameter steel plate, and making it swing more and more with each shot, but I could see the bullet in flight. I could see the arc that it was making, and as the wind picked up, I had to adjust my hold for that, because it was highly affected by the wind. I was using federal automatch ammo, where I probably should have been using some higher velocity stuff, and didn't want to burn up my good ammo, so was just plinking with the real cheap stuff. Check out this video. This guy is shooting his CZ457 very well at 50 yards, but his groups get quite a bit bigger at 100 yards:


If you look at the comment section, you'll see where guys are trying to give him advice. Some of it is laughable because he's shooting very well, but limited by the ammo and the cartridge in general. I really wonder how many guys actually shoot their rimfires at 100+ yards, and do they know how they perform. A rifle shooting 1/2" 5 shot groups at 50 yards, will probably shoot 1" or bigger groups at 100 yards. Then throw in wind, and you could see double that group size. With the 22lr, it's possible. At 50 yards, you don't see that as much, but stretch that distance out to 100, and it matters a lot more. The guys saying they can shoot 1/2 moa at 100 yards with their 22lr's are some bad azzes for sure!!!!!

Course if someone was looking to be "less than honest" when they post without the ranges, what's to keep that same "less than honest" person from writing "100 yards" on the target shot at 50?

The first thing I look for is the distance. If the distance is not there neither am I .

I moved 15 mons ago..... my range distance was 101 Meters. Just happened to be where I shot.

Nice range BSA............

Exactly. I always hope guys are being honest. Even thought it's the "internet", I'm hopeful guys here are being honest. That is all we can go by really. Focus on being a man of your word, and being honest. Keeping things simple is how I roll...

Thanks buddy. i love that range. It is free to the public, and we strive to take care of it. The one I posted pics of, where the rifle is on the shooting mat, is our 400 yard range. But we have steel targets out to 1,000 yards. We are not allowed to drive past the 400 yard berm though. It's fine by me. I am just happy they finally put in the targets going out to 1,000.

Our 50 yard rimfire range, is weird though. They still have it set up so people can shoot their pistols there too, with one bench!!! Not that I'm complaining, but sometimes we get guys there shooting their pistols half way in between the bench and the target stands and steel plates. So it ties up that range for a while. We have 3 other pistol bays, that they can shoot at, but for some reason they tie up the one 50 yard range that is designated for 50 yard rimfire use.


It's a lot nicer now, with the cement walkway and barrier wall. They put that in about 6 months ago. That's where I've been doing all of my 22lr testing recently. Working on 2 different new to me 22lr's. A 10/22 clone, and a Winchester model 52 sporter reproduction, made in Japan. The 10/22 clone is done, and shooting almost as well as my other 10/22. The 52 sporter still needs to be tested with more ammo.


Our 100 yard range has target stands set at 25, 50 and 100 yards, with 4 steel benches. One is set up for wheelchair use (not shown in pic):


It's my playground for sure. I spend a lot of time there. It's as peaceful as the pictures depict too. A huge resource in my area, and we respect it.

If they were standard 1/5 scale silhouettes used for small bore silhouette the chicken was at 40 meters, pig at 60, Turkeys at 77 and rams at 100 meters. The game started in Mexico so it's metric. Loads of fun and just a few matches will seriously improve your offhand shooting.

It's also the most welcoming of all shooting spots I've ever shot. While a competition it's got various classifications (B-A-AA-AAA-Master) and everyone is there to help everyone else even at the national level.

I shot some of the small bore silhouette when I was a member at the nearest range here and it was a kick to compete in. I never got good enough to win anything but still enjoyed the shooting and watching those silhouette targets jump off the stands was rewarding ... the 100 meter rams were my downfall every time, but I got better after a while like most do and I could hold my own. Kind of miss those relaxing days, but the range was a nightmare to belong to and I dropped my membership. Wish we had a public range as nice and sparsely populated at BSA's set up....

The club you and I belong to, has a nice range, but it's pretty small.



I have spent many hours there, shooting both pistols and rimfires and centerfires. Being limited to 100 yards is kind of crappy when you shoot centerfire rifles, but it is what it is. That range is pretty peaceful as well. For me, it was worth the 45 mile drive to get there. Probably about the same distance for you too. You've probably tried Clark rifles, and maybe even Douglas ridge, or tri counties ranges as well. The funny thing about our little range in Washington is it's very popular with many different police departments, FBI, forestry, and other 3 letter agencies. I remember being up there one time, and the LEO's let me shoot with them. It was fun. I still go there for some shoots, I don't know if you do anymore. Just something to consider, since you live a lot closer than I do now.

Pistols. 13 yards for the OP:
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Now you’re taking…
Musical rifles. When the music stops, it’s time to change rifles.

Ha ha.. We did that one time at my club in Washington (I just posted some pics of that range). Boy our scores went to schidt. We had to shoot other's rifles. I think I won that match, but it was kind of fu cked.. One guy deliberately had his rifle sighted in way off, to throw people off.. I was wise to his games though... I ended up taking my first 22lr to that match. It was an old Savage semi auto that my grandpa gave me. I had shortened the stock for my kids to learn on. I think the LOP is only about 10 inches. That threw some people for a loop... All in fun, of course...

This is why I don't shoot at 25 yards. It would be absolutely pointless. Even with iron sights..



Same reason I never shoot less than 100 yards with a centerfire rifle, at targets.

How bout the ELR 22lr stuff? I had a 39A fitted with both reciever and tang peeps that i shot out to 400 yds with montly. My target was a 20lb empty propane bottle with the bottom cut off. It rand loud enough to hear @400. Sadly i had to sell the rifle to fund some dental work for my son. I was making hits on steel about 80% of the time with peeps and cross sticks kneeling or sitting.. i have a savage bolt gun w a 6x24 that i have dialed and shot to 600 yds on a 3'x3' steel..prone on bipod.. last time i did it i went 7/10. Its a long wait to watch the impacts in the spotter

That would be fun, if it's something you are interested in. I however would rather punch out a 3/4" group at 400 yards with one of my centerfires than dink around with a 22lr at that range. All personal choice of course, and it also depends on what competitions you shoot as well.

No more comments from the OP? ha ha.. You know what one of my pet peeves is? Guys misrepresenting how their rifles shoot!!! I tire of seeing all the schidty shooting on youtube, from rifles that i know can shoot better.

Like cheap savages:

It always rains when I take this one out:

Sorry, 10 shots at 50 yards, shooting right handed with irons..

Then scoped:


50 yards of course^^ Shooting left handed.

I am the OP and I have no idea why you feel the need to make reference about my not having made comments since most of what I was asking about has been covered.

To put it in simple terms - I don't see the point in posting group pictures like you did without any relevant information on the target. And in particular there are folks who keep posting the same target pictures over and over without any info. What's the point? It could be 50 feet or 50 yards - who knows?
When I see the name of the poster in a lot of instances I can almost foresee the pictures they are going to post. It's like a "hey look at me" - never mind that there is no information provided.


I suppose that I could post some of mine like this these - they have the relevant data on it.




Or I could post ones like these - which is more like some posters do and leave it to the imagination of the viewer.

Curious, is this the photo you are referencing?



If so, I thought I explained that I shot this at 50yds. in an online contest.

No, I was not referencing your photo.

As stated in my OP I don't understand why people don't mention the distance or provide it on the target. If there is a comment in the post about the distance the target was shot at then the information is available and removes the guessing.

Personally I like to put the info on the target otherwise when I look back at it at a later date I don't have to try to remember what the ammo, conditions, etc were like.
Besides that if it is a bragging target I sure as heck want folks to know the distance it was shot at.


drover

I agree with you. Once in awhile I forget to.

Ha ha. You need to learn to hit what you are aiming at. Another one of my pet peeves. But since it's not me shooting, go for it. ha ha.. It's like the longrange guys hitting 6 feet high and 3' to the left or right, then not knowing how to correct for the shot, after the first splash.

Post some pics of the x-ring shot out, with some 10 shot groups, and maybe you'll change my mind.

Looks to me like he was targeting the grid line intersections and extremely well at that! Carry on though "Marksman" BSA.