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I will get some trailboss, and cci200 primers. Do you think the 200cci primer will light off the Trailboss effectively? I went on their website and read about the case measuring to the base of the seated bullet and multiply by .70 for a starting load. I’ve been real busy, but I think I finally got some time to devote to this. I sure do appreciate all the help I have received from everyone.👍👍
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My brother mostly ran black powder in his 45-90 - 1885. When he shot smokeless in his he used 5744.
My 45-90 is a twin to what he had, a 1885 Miroku Jap Winchester. It weighs 9.5 lb and has excellent sights set up for BP silhouette. I’d like to use it on bison. I have a couple molds, but I’d like to get a great bullet for bison. I have some 325 grain bullets coming from GT bullets. I wonder if I should have gone with heavier??? The molds I have are low drag style made for BP silhouette competition. 500+ grain.
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Mine will be used for whitetail and such. No large game.
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Where can you get Trailboss? Everywhere that I've checked, except scam sites, is out of stock.
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Is Midwest Reloads a scam site?
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Called Hodgdon on Trail Boss. Told me to call back in a few months and check. They have none. Looking at another powder. I was told not to use smokeless in my pre 1900 86 Winchester. I think I will be fine with low velocity loads and light bullets. Hell back then you could buy smokeless 45-90.
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The Trailboss and pistol powder production line in Oz has been diverted to producing powder for the Ukranians. Only god knows when we will see production resume.
If I were you I’d be looking at AA 5744. Like Trailboss it’s a bulky powder but is somewhat slower and I think better suited to the loads you are looking to produce. In the late Lyman manuals it produced some of the most accurate loads.
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Thank You JFE that is the powder I have been looking at for a replacement.
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Since the 450 Alaskan and the 45-90 have nearly the same case capacity, I’d guess you could start with 450 Alaskan starting loads.
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Is Midwest Reloads a scam site? If they have Trailboss in stock, then probably yes. Do a Google search, Midwest Reloads and Scam are usually in the same headline.
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Thank You for the heads up tmitch.
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Still haven’t found a powder to load with. Lots of options, but all are hard to source. Too many damn options.
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Mrhp, My 45-90 hand loading is primarily for hunting and I have used only a few powders and settled on one -- VV N133 as it gives me the best velocities with the lowest chamber pressures. If you are interested and can source VV N133, I will dig into my load records and send you a couple of my hunting loads. BTW, my Winchester 1886 45-90 is of the most recent manufacture and it shoots 45-70 and 45-90 very well.
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Looks like Midway has VV N133. Remember, I am using my original Ideal loading hand press.it will cast a 275 grain bullet with Lyman#2. 1400-1500 fps would be great as my gun was manufactured in 1887. It does however have a new barrel. Thank You! Mrhp, My 45-90 hand loading is primarily for hunting and I have used only a few powders and settled on one -- VV N133 as it gives me the best velocities with the lowest chamber pressures. If you are interested and can source VV N133, I will dig into my load records and send you a couple of my hunting loads. BTW, my Winchester 1886 45-90 is of the most recent manufacture and it shoots 45-70 and 45-90 very well.
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Mrhp, Yes. But just as I began looking for load data, my daughter arrived needing help with her car and that will cause me to put off looking up information for you tonight.
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Not a problem. When you find it, just let me know. I appreciate the help.
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Not to be a pest, but have you found any data crshelton?
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Mrhp, My 45-90 hand loading is primarily for hunting and I have used only a few powders and settled on one -- VV N133 as it gives me the best velocities with the lowest chamber pressures. If you are interested and can source VV N133, I will dig into my load records and send you a couple of my hunting loads. BTW, my Winchester 1886 45-90 is of the most recent manufacture and it shoots 45-70 and 45-90 very well. Not trying to hijack this thread but I’m glad I stumbled onto this post. N133 is what I plan on using to work up loads for 45-75. One thing I want to ask that might help the OP if he pursues using the N133: Is there any filler being used in your loads? Is it even necessary?
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Apparently filler is not needed as I do not use filler with my N133 loads for my 45-90.
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