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I did not see this coming from S and W but I’m glad others are getting into this space in terms of competition. Makes me wonder what other companies are thinking of dipping their toes into that water.

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When is this supposed to be released?


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Had some inside info a year or so ago that this was a possibility. I suggested .500 and .460. They'd sell the piss out of those...

I did a review of the S&W 500 back in 2003 when released and started with a summary. "The 500 S&W is probably the best lever action cartridge never chambered". The SAAMI spec's changed after the introduction as the original version used large Pistol Primers and was upgraded to Large Rifle primers and 65K pressures.

The interesting fact being I had determined that in my article as I found unburned powder residue using pistol primers, the dies sent by RCBS didn't accommodate pointed bullets so I reported that to RCBS and they sent tapered cones as Barnes had begun releasing their range of X bullets with 3 weights needing the deeper tapered cone and 1 lighter version at 275gn which would suit a lever rifle very well. My original bullet tests were 275gn Cor Bon loads and handloads, 325gn Speer made for the 500 Auto and sound to be too soft for the magnum and the 400gn Sierra flap point. I added all 4 weights of Barnes bullets as soon as they arrived. It was a good beginning for a new cartridge.

The next change was deeper primer pockets in the cases as rifle primers are deeper than pistol primers apart from the thicker cup metal. The first batch of factory loads from CorBon had pistol primers and I still have those cases which don't accommodate Large rifle primers (well). The biggest challenge was working with no reloading information available.

When I experienced ignition problems and unburned powder, it struck me that as I was basically using .243 powder volumes, it was silly using pistol primers which is why I changed the dies, crush seated a few rifle primers and worked up the powder changes to around 200fps over factory specs. Current factory specs are still several hundred fps above my loads but as I gained great accuracy and was using the handgun on whitetail anyway, stayed around 1800fps with the 275's. The best part of a review is the exploration.


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Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


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Originally Posted by RAM
Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


I hadn’t even been back to the thread until now. But whatever. But hey, a 92 is still stronger than a round bolt. But you are correct, my character is abysmal. I never apologize to nameless jackasses in the internet when I’m possibly wrong about some arcane detail regarding a rifle. It is horrible behavior, I’ll grant you. I only do it because my mother was a horrible person who raised me to be a d-i-c-k.

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Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


I hadn’t even been back to the thread until now. But whatever. But hey, a 92 is still stronger than a round bolt. But you are correct, my character is abysmal. I never apologize to nameless jackasses in the internet when I’m possibly wrong about some arcane detail regarding a rifle. It is horrible behavior, I’ll grant you. I only do it because my mother was a horrible person who raised me to be a d-i-c-k.

Stronger says what ? Got anything to back that up besides your mind? Cuz we all know that is worthless.

Steel on 4 sides beats steel on 3 sides, every time. They both have 2 locking lugs in the rear. The Henry has got the '92 and the Marlin both beat


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Originally Posted by RAM
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Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


I hadn’t even been back to the thread until now. But whatever. But hey, a 92 is still stronger than a round bolt. But you are correct, my character is abysmal. I never apologize to nameless jackasses in the internet when I’m possibly wrong about some arcane detail regarding a rifle. It is horrible behavior, I’ll grant you. I only do it because my mother was a horrible person who raised me to be a d-i-c-k.

Stronger says what ? Got anything to back that up besides your mind? Cuz we all know that is worthless.

Steel on 4 sides beats steel on 3 sides, every time. They both have 2 locking lugs in the rear. The Henry has got the '92 and the Marlin both beat

Let me know when Henry chambers one of its traditional levers for a 65k psi cartridge.

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Originally Posted by RAM
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Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


I hadn’t even been back to the thread until now. But whatever. But hey, a 92 is still stronger than a round bolt. But you are correct, my character is abysmal. I never apologize to nameless jackasses in the internet when I’m possibly wrong about some arcane detail regarding a rifle. It is horrible behavior, I’ll grant you. I only do it because my mother was a horrible person who raised me to be a d-i-c-k.

Stronger says what ? Got anything to back that up besides your mind? Cuz we all know that is worthless.

Steel on 4 sides beats steel on 3 sides, every time. They both have 2 locking lugs in the rear. The Henry has got the '92 and the Marlin both beat
You better go look at a schematic of the Henry, that is if your dumb ass can read one. The Henry Big Boy is essentially a short action 336. It has one locking lug that engages a notch in the underside of the bolt..

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Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


I hadn’t even been back to the thread until now. But whatever. But hey, a 92 is still stronger than a round bolt. But you are correct, my character is abysmal. I never apologize to nameless jackasses in the internet when I’m possibly wrong about some arcane detail regarding a rifle. It is horrible behavior, I’ll grant you. I only do it because my mother was a horrible person who raised me to be a d-i-c-k.

Stronger says what ? Got anything to back that up besides your mind? Cuz we all know that is worthless.

Steel on 4 sides beats steel on 3 sides, every time. They both have 2 locking lugs in the rear. The Henry has got the '92 and the Marlin both beat
You better go look at a schematic of the Henry, that is if your dumb ass can read one. The Henry Big Boy is essentially a short action 336. It has one locking lug that engages a notch in the underside of the bolt..
why the hostility and name calling? Makes you appear as a whiney cu nt.
Please discuss things like a man if you can. Thank you

Henry, like Marlin uses one U shaped piece, lug on the left, and lug on the right. And pushing the two piece fp into battery in the middle. The design is proven by the .450 marlin belted magnum.The '92 has two lugs pinned together w/ flat stock and hardened pins. Sliding into rabbets on left and right sides of bolt. Generally you'll find one solid piece less likely to failure.


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I tried the 500 magnum cartridge in a 336. Could not get it to feed at all. I think I shot sixty some maximum hand loaded rounds before the locking lug deformed and the action ceased to function. 60,000 psi is a tall leap.
My experience with 86,71 and 92 showed me to build a rifle that can handle the 500 magnum and 60,000 psi.
I shot a “92” in 480 Ruger as a test. Maximum handloads using the same components as the pressure data. The action stretched almost .030 in length until I quit shooting it. I could not find 454 to test.

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Originally Posted by RAM
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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Gee joe bob, once a man realized he was wrong, so wrong he was blind to what was before his eyes, he'ld apologize. But you ? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗.

Speaks volumes to your character. And ignorance.


I hadn’t even been back to the thread until now. But whatever. But hey, a 92 is still stronger than a round bolt. But you are correct, my character is abysmal. I never apologize to nameless jackasses in the internet when I’m possibly wrong about some arcane detail regarding a rifle. It is horrible behavior, I’ll grant you. I only do it because my mother was a horrible person who raised me to be a d-i-c-k.

Stronger says what ? Got anything to back that up besides your mind? Cuz we all know that is worthless.

Steel on 4 sides beats steel on 3 sides, every time. They both have 2 locking lugs in the rear. The Henry has got the '92 and the Marlin both beat
You better go look at a schematic of the Henry, that is if your dumb ass can read one. The Henry Big Boy is essentially a short action 336. It has one locking lug that engages a notch in the underside of the bolt..
why the hostility and name calling? Makes you appear as a whiney cu nt.
Please discuss things like a man if you can. Thank you

Henry, like Marlin uses one U shaped piece, lug on the left, and lug on the right. And pushing the two piece fp into battery in the middle. The design is proven by the .450 marlin belted magnum.The '92 has two lugs pinned together w/ flat stock and hardened pins. Sliding into rabbets on left and right sides of bolt. Generally you'll find one solid piece less likely to failure.
It's one lug with a cutout for the firing pin to pass through you dope. The .450 Marlin operates at a SAMMI MAP of 43,500 PSI. A far cry from the .500 S&W's SAMMI MAP of 60,000 PSI. You should really keep your pie hole shut in these discussions as you give out erroneous information over and over and make yourself look just as dumb as you do on the campfire forum.

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Can't let go of the personal attacks hih? You should get some help with that.

So you think two lugs pinned together by loose fitted straps is stronger that two lugs from one forging? Any particular reason? Or you just gonna keep name calling and stamping your feet like a spoiled child ?
Have you even paused a moment in your fanatical rage to ask the simple question Why?

Who wants a 7# Carbine that will kick the bejesus out of them, if it holds together? Are you a masochist?

There are millions of things the human mind can dream up. Most never come to fruition for lack of a why.


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You have proven over and over that you are a dumb sunofabitch who knows jack diddly about lever action rifles or anything much at all and are not worth arguing with. Here's a hint for you retard. How those locking bolts are connected to the lever to actuate has zip to do with how strong the lockup is when the action is closed in battery.

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Zip ? What a maroon. Because YOU say something doesn't make it true. You bring zero support. And the personal attacks continue. Do you have anything constructive to offer? A real "my way or the highway" type. "I'm right your dumb" is such a strong arguement. I've seen the result of your temper, many times on the faces and bodies of the spouses and children of those of your ilk. Probably beat you pets too. Get some help with your rage.


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Geesus, you ain't been right about anything and too dumb to figure it out for yourself. A pitiful waste of space you are.

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Say you, so, no one.Blah blah blah. Get some help .Please. you NEED it.
You troll for "tastes great,less filling" arguments over topics only you think are important.
If there was a market. Someone would fill it. Live with it.
454 on a 92, you got it, 500 on a 86 you got that too. What's your bitch?


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So, now you’re crying about personal attacks? Too funny. You’re a whiny bitch.

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Here is a link to a better pic of one.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1037742001/


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
So, now you’re crying about personal attacks? Too funny. You’re a whiny bitch.

Not crying at all. Requesting the Trolls to grow up. Have a discussion. Lost cause .like talking to a 5 year old


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You think we don't see how you act and all the name calling you do ? LOL. Moron. Heres another clue to help your stupid ass figure out which rifle design is stronger and why that might be. Pay attention to where the locking lug abutment surfaces are located within the receiver.

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