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I did not want to bring you up.

I hope they just let him go. He is 80 and could play Joe Biden at his defense. Just mumble away and forget where he is . Might work. Kidding aside, I dont know how to poach, and Wisconsin < Upper Michigan and Minnesota has a wolf problem. Everyone says SSS. I would never do that, however, if a person did, the dumbest thing you can do is tell someone, keep part of it in his freezer , and hide the tag in a tree stump near by. I am suspicious about some of the evidence.. I am sure could hide a tag anywhere I hunt in NW . Wis. and it would never be seen again. he couldn't just took it somewhere and burned it in a big campfire? Something does not add up and I think the feds planted fake evidence to get him to fess up .

thats pretty cool in a lot of ways. And scary in others. All well in TX at the moment. Have had 72 hours below freezing. A severe drought. One pond almost dry. Hit 80ish 2 days after the freeze. And now in the last 3 days 13.5 inches of rain so all is normal.

lol,😂 72 hours below freezing. Knee slapper right there.

That is one way to keep warm in bitter cold!
Laughing!

Why is FedGov "protecting" grizzly bears? Shouldn't that be an issue for the individual, sovereign states??

You ever find your cheese hat k.huntz?

This ^^^^

BINGO

The only thing I can see that he did wrong was open his stupid mouth.

Did you ever find your brain?

JSTUART;
Good afternoon BC time and Happy Friday to you, I trust the day is behaving and you're all well.

Speaking as a BC resident, so emphatically not a Montana resident, the grizzly bear - and the wolf too I'd opine - are very politicized animals.

If one was being jaded and slightly less than charitable, one might opine that some on the left have made then cultural icons or even more. You know if one went there.

While we used to have a grizzly season, the powers that be in the capitol chose to stop it, admitting it was for non-scientific reasons and as political payment to some of the members of the Green party who had a coalition of sorts with them for awhile.

Even though I'm a semi-fossilized boomer, I know what a radio collar means and in so saying, I cannot conceive what the size of rock someone would have to be hiding under to not know that.

As a funny aside, as mentioned I shot an ear tagged buck this year, but didn't see the ear tag when I shot it. It was running with a collared buck and I purposely let that one walk because of the collar.

When I took the head into the Conservation Officers to give them the info on the kill area for the ear tag, I mentioned I'd let the collared one walk.

Much to my surprise, they said it was right in the hunting regs that we could shoot collared animals in legal season and they encouraged it as it gave them data. Sure enough too JSTUART, when I read the new regs, there it was.... f

All that preamble to say that if one chooses to take a grizzly here and one observes it has a collar, one needs to have several layers of fairly intricate planning in place should one further choose not to report it.

I will say that here in BC, the CO's have been pretty fair about defensive shootings on grizzly bears and we've had our share since the hunting season stopped.

Anyways sir, just some filler information I suppose and a view from a Canuck who is just a tad north of where this went down, but about 6 valleys west.

Best to you and yours sir.

Dwayne

$8k for grizzly bear hunt? He got a deal. Damn outfitters quoted me $$9650 for a mule deer hunt. I wonder if old dude has any mule deer coming to his back yard?

He broke several rules for SSS. Dummy.

It is when its south TX and it doesn't even freeze every year..... slap that knee. I'll slap that bag.

Thats super on being easy on the DLP/Defensive shoots. Common sense there at least.

I, for one, and there must be at least 2 of us, did not realize that the collar could contain time of death etc.... I should have, but I did not think about it from that view. I guess you would have to have proof of being threatened and just report it then. Guess it depends on who and what and how much of the government you fear. As noted though, we can find all of the evidence on this, but the borders are wide open. Child sex trafficking is rampant. No one cares if people do drugs and on and on.

I do realize we are both members of the choir though and since its about time for a shower I should get off my soapbox, grab the soap and head on.

Regards, Jeff

rost495;
Good afternoon again sir, it's always great to converse with you.

Since I'm on the short side, it doesn't hurt my feelings one bit if you stand on a soapbox as it's easier for me to see you that way if someone is standing in front of me.

Yes sir on some of the new collars there is a plethora of information being transmitted or at very least available. Crazy really.

On the DLP shootings, the couple that I know of locally were more or less the CO just coming out, taking a look and doing the paperwork.

From what I was told the CO's looked where the bear was, where the shooter was and more or less said, "Yah lucky you saw it and can shoot straight".

The hunter or grizzly shooter doesn't get to keep any of the carcass of course, but that's to be expected in my view.

The local CO's that I've interacted with either hunt or are aware of how life works up on the mountains. Honestly I can't complain about one thing with them as far as my dealings went.

As you've said, it's also something that should give us all pause that there seems to be funds available to track a bear or even a deer's movements - which I support by the way - but there's no funds available to track missing kids.

Honestly it's a huge problem up here as you might well know and it's not a funds issue as much as the lack of will to really and truly deal with the problem.

We can speculate as to why that lack of will exists, but thus far all I am sure of is that it does.

Thanks again for the reply sir, it's always a pleasure.

Best to you all.

Dwayne

So I’m guessing the smart thing to do, once he realized the bear was collared, would have been to let the bear lay where it was, hand off the rifle to a sympathetic friend or relative, and when the Bear Cops showed up, plead ignorance of the whole deal.

I’m sssuming innocent until proven guilty still holds true in Canada.

but yer honor, it were eatin' all a m' deer kern. wut i'm sposed t'do?

Birdwatcher;
Good evening to you sir, I hope San Antonio is warm enough tonight what with the cold weather Texas is getting.

Like as not I'm part of the reason for the confusion of where that bear was shot, but the incident took place north of Troy, MT on the Yaak River which strangely enough becomes the Yahk River when it crosses into BC just a few miles north of there.

As to your question about the assumption of innocence until proven guilty, I can opine that based on a few of the politically motivated arrests made in the past few years, that's not always the case unfortunately.

We're not what we should be, could be or once were in a multitude of ways sad to say.

There are many of us working on the problem and aren't about to give up any time soon either, but some days it does feel like an uphill battle alright.

All the best regardless.

Dwayne