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Making a break open single in modern CF calibers didn't work so well for the Knight.

I had 1 with 2 barrels, minute of pie plate was the norm and they were heavy.

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Originally Posted by Exchipy
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We could learn a lot from the Europeans
Like the Merkel …..a Kipplauf…….a nice light stalking rifle. 4 1/2-5 lbs.
But we won’t….

Depends on who you mean by “we.”

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And for a base price of about $8000:

https://parkwestarms.com/product/sd-10/

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Originally Posted by richj
Making a break open single in modern CF calibers didn't work so well for the Knight.

I had 1 with 2 barrels, minute of pie plate was the norm and they were heavy.

Love ‘em or hate ‘em, the Henrys are perennially hard to come by, in some calibers and all gauges. Somebody’s buying them. The two rifles I bought were/are plenty accurate, and my .410 is a peach. A little heavy, especially the larger calibers, but generally very nice to nearly stunning wood, and nicely finished. Might shoot my .410 at some clays today, red dot and all.


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I sincerely wish Ruger would do a #1 in 22LR.


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Originally Posted by 1minute
I sincerely wish Ruger would do a #1 in 22LR.

...in a 2/3 sized #1 action, for a lighter rifle chambered for the many smaller cartridges.

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If it only comes with a wood stock it’ll be a flop. The brand Marlin just doesn’t scream accurate and I never hear anyone talking about how good their triggers are either. It’s going to be hard to compete with CVA.


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Bring out a copy of the 219 in wood/blue and a stainless/ synthetic version. Run the more common calibers in it. Take the No1 back to select wood and more classic calibers such as .250 Sav 257 Rob, 7x57, 303 British 300 H&H .

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Originally Posted by 01Foreman400
If it only comes with a wood stock it’ll be a flop. The brand Marlin just doesn’t scream accurate and I never hear anyone talking about how good their triggers are either. It’s going to be hard to compete with CVA.

Yeah, they should do just stainless/synthetic. Wood on a budget rifle will be 2x4 grade walnut, or birch.

However, done right, they could blow CVA out of the water. CVA trigger is ok, not great. Their extractor design is not good. And Ruger could make a better barrel.
Marlin triggers are best when replaced with a Wild West trigger.
A fully adjustable trigger on the single shot would be nice, but not likely.

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The marketing people will have then last say.

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For any single shot manufacturer to be successful beyond belief they need to offer a wide variety of options. Wood and synthetic stocks with high and low combs. Stainless and blued actions and barrels. Sights and scope options. Rimfire, shotgun, and centerfire pistol and rifle chamberings. Interchangeable barrels would be a huge plus as would a custom shop with a barrel accessory program.

I'm interested to see how H&R, Marlin, and TC Arms adapt to the "new" gun market. Hopefully no tacticool crap with rails, light, and lasers.


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Historically, 70% of Ruger gross sales are to foreign governments. So the civilian market, for them, is a small % of over all sales. The #1 is a very small niche in their market. They stopped making the #3 because it is ostensibly what you describe; A #1 action with reduced size of the rifle and overall features at a reduced price. They make a great custom rifle.

This is my #13, it is a 22 Hornet #3 with #1 barrel, wood, and internals converted to a 7mm RM. Shoots sub 1/2 inch groups.

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