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I guess were are lucky as the doom and gloom end of the world inflation hasn't really hit us. Been hearing all kinds of bullchit on here and everywhere else for the last 3-4 years and still waiting for the dollar to collapse.

Could it happen, sure, anything could happen but I'm sorta done worrying about it.

Finally. A little conversation without the knuckle draggers simply saying GFY. 🤣

Here’s the deal. The economy is wonderful if your smart. Too many people aren’t however. Less than 50% of all Americans have a retirement account, and of those, the average balance is pathetic. I could give a rats ass what the interest rate on a new car is. Wanna know why? I’m not financing a new car. But guess what, everyday I see people who I KNOW make a chit ton less than I do driving brand new diesel pickups that are approaching $100k, if not more. I’ve never owned a brand new vehicle, and my wife and I drive Toyotas because they last forever. The average retirement account in the US for my age bracket is about $142k, and the median is $48k. That is fuggin pathetic!! When my wife hires someone, one of the things she pushes is her companies 401k. You know what she hears from potential employees? Crickets. Half of her employees do not participate in the companies 401k. These aren’t uneducated people either, as many have their Doctoret degrees. When I lived in Georgia, I loved laughing at the redneck construction workers driving brand new trucks they financed for 10+ years. I put more in my 401k every year than they make, but they had nicer trucks, phones, TV’s etc. These are the people complaining because those trucks they have to finance cost a hell of a lot more money now. Yes, prices are up due to Covid inflation, the question for those complaining is are you doing your part to be financially successful, or are you trying to keep up with the Jones and being an idiot financially? The numbers say most Americans are being idiots.

The crash bros have been predicting impending doom since forever.

We will have a recession, but the severity is unknown. Might be in one now. My industry is going about 150%, so I am skeptical we are. In the last recession we were about 50%, so if this is a recession, I will take it.

What kinds of food do you buy? Tbones and prime rib?

I was just south for a bit. Grocery prices were 1/2 compared to what I pay in AK. I was actually surprised how low they were considering all the doom and gloom I had been hearing.

How is this possible? You makin $16/hour? I would say get a better job.

Heck not even Conrad is that broke.

You are out of touch, thats all. We have shopped the same, buying generally the same food for 25 years and groceries now cost a good $100+ when we go for the same product. And the cool thing is now you get less of that product for even more money. Wife and I cant get out of the grocery store for less than $300. Gas just jumped 30 cents a gallon last night. Nlow $3.69 here for 87

Okay. You got yours, and f*** everyone else, right?

There ARE a lot of stupid Americans. That's why the dhimmicrats control the Senate and think there's no inflation and we can just keep on adding to the national debt, and everything will be fine.

You're a moron.

Finally. A little conversation without the knuckle draggers simply saying GFY. 🤣

Here’s the deal. The economy is wonderful if your smart. Too many people aren’t however. Less than 50% of all Americans have a retirement account, and of those, the average balance is pathetic. I could give a rats ass what the interest rate on a new car is. Wanna know why? I’m not financing a new car. But guess what, everyday I see people who I KNOW make a chit ton less than I do driving brand new diesel pickups that are approaching $100k, if not more. I’ve never owned a brand new vehicle, and my wife and I drive Toyotas because they last forever. The average retirement account in the US for my age bracket is about $142k, and the median is $48k. That is fuggin pathetic!! When my wife hires someone, one of the things she pushes is her companies 401k. You know what she hears from potential employees? Crickets. Half of her employees do not participate in the companies 401k. These aren’t uneducated people either, as many have their Doctoret degrees. When I lived in Georgia, I loved laughing at the redneck construction workers driving brand new trucks they financed for 10+ years. I put more in my 401k every year than they make, but they had nicer trucks, phones, TV’s etc. These are the people complaining because those trucks they have to finance cost a hell of a lot more money now. Yes, prices are up due to Covid inflation, the question for those complaining is are you doing your part to be financially successful, or are you trying to keep up with the Jones and being an idiot financially? The numbers say most Americans are being idiots.

20 percent more for 20 percent less quantity, with less quality as well.

How many kids are you feeding?

Okay. You got yours, and f*** everyone else, right?

There ARE a lot of stupid Americans. That's why the dhimmicrats control the Senate and think there's no inflation and we can just keep on adding to the national debt, and everything will be fine.

You're a moron.

Are you aware how much debt was added to the US under Trump? He did in 4 years what took Obama 8. Do yourself a favor, and research debt by party. You will see that Democrats are much better about US debt than Republicans. That is a FACT!! The only thing the Republicans are better about is convincing their idiot followers that they are actually better. If you haven’t “got yours” whose fault is that? It certainly isn’t mine! Maybe you should look in the mirror and ask yourself why? The only reason I sometimes vote for D’s is because the American public does better under D’s than they do under R’s. Again, that is a verifiable FACT!! If you continue to vote against your own well being, that’s up to you. But don’t be pissed when the people you vote for are screwing you behind your back while touting how great a job they are doing to your face. Educate yourself.

You are out of touch, thats all. We have shopped the same, buying generally the same food for 25 years and groceries now cost a good $100+ when we go for the same product. And the cool thing is now you get less of that product for even more money. Wife and I cant get out of the grocery store for less than $300. Gas just jumped 30 cents a gallon last night. Nlow $3.69 here for 87

So do you spend 1/3 to 1/2 of your paycheck on a grocery trip?

I am VERY aware of the spending problems and the RINOs who keep throwing fuel on the fire. That is NOT justification for handing power to the totalitarian dhimmicrat party. As far as my "you got yours" comment goes, you are incorrect in PROJECTING your values onto me because I am not bemoaning my own circumstances, which happen to be quite acceptable---but I DO think about others' well being and the future of this country. So take your "verifiable FACT" and stick it up your ass. Moron.

JMHO
The current economic conditions have[greatly] widened the gap between those barely getting by and those killing it.
I don't argue that this is still the best place for anyone with some hutzpah to drag their selves out of economic ruination, but I would say it's getting harder to do by the day.

I deal with customers daily. I talk with folks from all walks of life. Uber rich down to the basic working man living paycheck to paycheck. The only pricks who seem to be clueless are the stupid rich, emphasis on stupid. Damn near everyone coming through our doors are complaining on the rising costs of the every day items needed to live. Our business is down significantly and so is every other dealer in our dealer group from around the country. RV manufacturers are beginning to have massive layoffs. Dealers are not selling inventory and are sitting on much more than they should be at this point. The housing crash back in bamas first term didnt have much effect on us here. This area is normally very stable. This go around is killing us and every other dealer we keep contact with. Like I said, the ones who are acting like nothing is wrong are either to rich to feel the pain or too fuggin dumb to understand what is happening