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I recieved an email from KYGUNCO this week, and in it was this rifle from Hammerli Arms.This toggle action is similar to a Volquartsen I'm interested in for about half the price. I've been looking for a 17 HM2 rifle and Volquartsen and Savage are about the only game right now. This might be a cheaper option into an HM2 without buying the Volquartsen or building a full custom on a Bergara B14r . I know Hammerli makes decent air rifles, but I've never been around their rimfire products.
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It's uglier than a hat full of ass holes.
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It's uglier than a hat full of ass holes. Tend to agree
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Any accuracy reports out there yet?
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They announced them a month ago and it was mentioned here that Hammerli is part of Umarex now. It may not be the same Hammerli we've come to respect.
After being burned buying a Turkish 22 with an American brand name recently, I'll wait for accuracy reviews before I buy one.
I do like the concept!
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Watch the video at the bottom of this page. LOLOLOLOLOL https://hammerliarms.com/rifles/force-b1I won't own one, if for no other reason than that dumbazz video.
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WTF ??? - apparently whoever is behind that video was heavily influenced by the Mad Max movies. I have watched it twice and am still not sure what it is about or is supposed to represent or why it would influence someone buy one.
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Well, I'd be interested in a real world report as well. I agree the video was stupid, but I could care less about the video they produced. I'm more interested in the switch barrel application.
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They announced them a month ago and it was mentioned here that Hammerli is part of Umarex now. It may not be the same Hammerli we've come to respect.
After being burned buying a Turkish 22 with an American brand name recently, I'll wait for accuracy reviews before I buy one.
I do like the concept! Exactly!
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I do not see the appeal beyond 'one-finger toggling' the bolt.
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I won't own one, if for no other reason than that dumbazz video. I didn't want one till I saw the video. Imagining how stealthy & deadly & macho & chit I could be if I had one. You caused me to watch it, now I'll be shaking my head about it all day. Bout like gettin rid of an earworm. Gonna call that vid an eyeworm. But yes, it is an interesting rifle.
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Lord Humungous was in that video somewhere, I think?
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I think it's replacing the 10-22 and all that video is missing is the "Tactical Wheelbarrow"..
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My that is quite the video
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The article in American Rifleman didn't show great accuracy results.
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I saw the same article, I'll pass. I had hope for it but tacticool isn't enough, it has to shoot.
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You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend."
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That's very ugly. I wouldn't care if it shot ragged hole groups. I had a Savage to do that, and even it was not as ugly..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Cmon BSA don’t lie you’re buying one based on those dudes beards alone!
She never made it past the bedroom door, what was she aiming for...?
She's gone shootin..
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Cmon BSA don’t lie you’re buying one based on those dudes beards alone! Ha ha...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I agree with you on that one. Are they sponsoring a remake of Mad Max, or were they under attack by sage rats? Dawning the snow camo pancho in front of the John Deere was epic. Just a trendy bearded douche wearing his Amazon tactical mystery box gear.
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I was intrigued because the action is a Fortner straight pull action, the same one that Anschutz uses on their biathlon rifles and a few of their high end sporters. However the dismal accuracy as reported in the American Rifleman test terminated my interest.
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The accuracy report has terminated my interest also.
“Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the forest and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person”
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If you want a quality toggle action at a third the cost of an Anschutz Fortner check out the Izhmash Biathlon Basic. Also available in 22WMR. Just don't expect to get one with fancy wood!...Tom ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DdjmZgQ.jpg)
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I was more intrigued by the ability to switch barrels than it being a toggle action. I was looking for a cheaper than Volquartsen to get a .17 Mach 2. However, those Izhmash rifles do look like they'd work for nice toggle .22lr.
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