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Currently looking at two slightly different models Anschutz 1416 D HBs.
One a heavy barrel, entry level Anschutz with either a 23″ barrel and BEAVERTAIL fore end or Two, a 1416 Classic sporting stock with a stout HB in an 18" length. These are available in either single or two stage adjustable triggers.
These rifles are on sale in Canada at a number of retailers with savings of around $200 off the MSRP.
Any experience or comments you care to share about the new Ana RF guns.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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"If you want to play with Tuners,the 23" is a better arrangement,as the increase in lengths grants more to tune. I've done lots of both and will always take the shortened spouts' rigidity and laugh a Whiners crying about "chokes".
For the sake of saying so, the 18" is threaded for "chokes" but the 23" is crowned from what I can gather. The 23" HB definitely has a match chamber but 18" sporter's description sadly is a little unclear.
However, I'm leaning towards the longer barrel.
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Choke is a reduction of bore diameter,at the muzzle,which is oft touted by Purists. It's never made a fhuqk to me and I'll happily chop spouts well shy of same and never not for the better. Hint. That being said,I've shortened from the chamber end too,in order to retain said constriction,but will never not bank upon rigidity,which is simply a function of the relationship of length to contour. Hint. Chamber chopped. Hint. 18" for me. Hint....................
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Yep, the longer barrel makes them muzzle heavy. There's only a little hole in them.
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Currently looking at two slightly different models Anschutz 1416 D HBs.
Any experience or comments you care to share about the new Ana RF guns. The models are not really similar. I would be deciding if I want a Varmint configuration which is what the Beavertail stock is, or a Sporting configuration which is what the Classic is. Also, I'm curious to know why you refer to them as "new Ana RF guns". I trust because they are brand new?...Tom
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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ANA Anschutz North America
The newer 1416s are based on the renowned Match 64 barreled action while some favour the Model 54 variations.
The two models are listed at the same sale price.
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The newer 1416s are based on the renowned Match 64 barreled action while some favour the Model 54 variations.
The two models are listed at the same sale price. I'm pretty familiar with all that; I am the one that explained you're comparing a Varmint rifle to a Sporter rifle. I asked why you refer to 1416s as "new Ana RF guns". Because they're unused? It is my understanding the 1416 was discontinued a while ago. Unless I'm missing something I think you'll find those fine rifles are new old stock?...Tom
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Currently looking at two slightly different models Anschutz 1416 D HBs.
One a heavy barrel, entry level Anschutz with either a 23″ barrel and BEAVERTAIL fore end or Two, a 1416 Classic sporting stock with a stout HB in an 18" length. These are available in either single or two stage adjustable triggers. However they are a mass produced item and sometimes there are problems. These rifles are on sale in Canada at a number of retailers with savings of around $200 off the MSRP.
Any experience or comments you care to share about the new Ana RF guns. They are Anschutz so either will likely be fine. However they are a mass produced item and sometimes there are problems if there are issues ANA will take care of the problem. It seems to me that you need to decide what you want to use the rifle for and make your decision based on that, those two models have entirely different purposes. I have owned quite a few Anschutz over the years, both sporting and match rifles, the 1700 series and 1400 series and have had more than acceptable accuracy from both series. I have had 14 series rifles that shot as well as 17 series - for field rifles or lower level competition the 14 series are more than adequate. drover
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"I asked why you refer to 1416s as "new Ana RF guns". Because they're unused?
It is my understanding the 1416 was discontinued a while ago.
Unless I'm missing something I think you'll find those fine rifles are new old stock?...Tom"
Thank you Tom, that's the kind of info I was looking for... chances are these rifles are probably moving through the retail stream a second time seeing as these models were first released in 2017.
I was just playing with the idea of riding a M8 6x scope on top of a blued Anschutz action and barrel in either a sporter or varmint model.
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1710 AV HB SS Meister grade.
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Those mounts are schit and few things are worse than Burris glass. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!……..
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Thanks Stick, Is this O.K?
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Not even fhuqking close,but fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint. Just sayin'..............
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Thanks Stick, Is this O.K? I have the (left-handed) twin of your prone stock!
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Going from memory here, but my past readings suggested there is little if any velocity gain in 22LR's past about 18 inches. I think the longer barrels just offer a bit more weight, stability, and longer sight plain if one is doing irons.
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Well we can put this thread to rest as there will be no Anschutz 54 or 64 action for this ol' man.
A lovely walnut stocked CZ 457 LUX in 22 LR with a 24" barrel and iron sights was made available to me at a very reasonable price by the manager of a sporting goods store where I had a credit balance.
'Nuff said.
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Yah, so , whatever.
This is my third CZ 457 along with an MTR and a LRP stocked varmint version. I mean to shoot the Lux un-scoped and simply enjoy plinking with this 22.
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