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Originally Posted by Bay1975
I see some of you morons are still at it.

I spent all day visually inspecting welds and getting the appropriate NDE done. Like any, ANY occupation you will have both ends of the spectrum as for as abilities. Some work really hard to barley make it while others make it look easy.
Welding is no different.

What makes welding particularly different in one respect, is the amount of stupid people that believe they know anything about the subject. It’s really a curious thing.

You don’t see the same thing in other professions. A heart surgeon doesn’t have to listen to some mouth breathing retard trying to either give advice on his technique or try to convince home he’s over paid and under qualified lol.

Some of the comments here and what I’ve heard in person is down right retarted. What is required to be a certified welder the difference between the various welding codes, the difficulty of the various alloys to weld the different welding processes the difference between a pipeline welder, a structural welder, a refinery welder all of it may as well be written in Chinese backwards for all the good it does the average moron that feels compelled to comment on anything welding related.

It’s fascinating really. And for some reason the less welding ability one of these smooth brains have the more determined they are to try and down grade the profession?

Here are some facts for the smooth brains.
1. Structural welding including ship yards, fence building, trailer building, junk iron repair welding and your alcoholic uncle trying to weld a hole in a bush hog deck are the very basic lower skill level, entry level welding.
2. Pipe line welders are welding to one of the less stringent codes. The acceptance criteria for 1104 is easier than the refinery codes, period. No matter what your bumper sticker says.
3. Fab shop welders be they pipe, tube or structural are welding in a controlled environment where everything that can be done to make the welding easier ( read faster, more efficient, to make more money for the shop) has been done.
4. Of the various refinery pipe welding jobs. Tube welding in boilers and furnaces are the top of the difficulty levels. A lot of the tube welds are graded severe on the RT (X-ray) for the dumbasses that means any defect of any size is rejectable. It requires a nearly perfectly made weld in the tightest, sometimes hottest environment you can work in. Sometimes under fresh air respirators, often times with mirrors. These are the best of the best. I know because I’ve welded in every level from a ship yard to the highest paying tube welding jobs there was.

For some comparisons. I know and have worked with some young guys no more than 22-23 years old. These were some of the fastest and best welders I’ve ever seen. Lay out all night drinking, show up late and run thru more welds in a day than any other welders on the job 3 to 1. Never have a repair never have anything visible on a weld that I’d have to get them to fix. Smart assed attitude, cocky and able to back it up. There’s a reason these guys make as much in a year as your average family doctor.
Not every welder will ever get to this level, but there are plenty of them.

If your only experience welding is what you’ve heard second hand, or the time you welded a bumper on a piece of $hite truck you should STFU when the subject of welding is discussed.

Nothing but truth there....


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Bay1975
I see some of you morons are still at it.

I spent all day visually inspecting welds and getting the appropriate NDE done. Like any, ANY occupation you will have both ends of the spectrum as for as abilities. Some work really hard to barley make it while others make it look easy.
Welding is no different.

What makes welding particularly different in one respect, is the amount of stupid people that believe they know anything about the subject. It’s really a curious thing.

You don’t see the same thing in other professions. A heart surgeon doesn’t have to listen to some mouth breathing retard trying to either give advice on his technique or try to convince home he’s over paid and under qualified lol.

Some of the comments here and what I’ve heard in person is down right retarted. What is required to be a certified welder the difference between the various welding codes, the difficulty of the various alloys to weld the different welding processes the difference between a pipeline welder, a structural welder, a refinery welder all of it may as well be written in Chinese backwards for all the good it does the average moron that feels compelled to comment on anything welding related.

It’s fascinating really. And for some reason the less welding ability one of these smooth brains have the more determined they are to try and down grade the profession?

Here are some facts for the smooth brains.
1. Structural welding including ship yards, fence building, trailer building, junk iron repair welding and your alcoholic uncle trying to weld a hole in a bush hog deck are the very basic lower skill level, entry level welding.
2. Pipe line welders are welding to one of the less stringent codes. The acceptance criteria for 1104 is easier than the refinery codes, period. No matter what your bumper sticker says.
3. Fab shop welders be they pipe, tube or structural are welding in a controlled environment where everything that can be done to make the welding easier ( read faster, more efficient, to make more money for the shop) has been done.
4. Of the various refinery pipe welding jobs. Tube welding in boilers and furnaces are the top of the difficulty levels. A lot of the tube welds are graded severe on the RT (X-ray) for the dumbasses that means any defect of any size is rejectable. It requires a nearly perfectly made weld in the tightest, sometimes hottest environment you can work in. Sometimes under fresh air respirators, often times with mirrors. These are the best of the best. I know because I’ve welded in every level from a ship yard to the highest paying tube welding jobs there was.

For some comparisons. I know and have worked with some young guys no more than 22-23 years old. These were some of the fastest and best welders I’ve ever seen. Lay out all night drinking, show up late and run thru more welds in a day than any other welders on the job 3 to 1. Never have a repair never have anything visible on a weld that I’d have to get them to fix. Smart assed attitude, cocky and able to back it up. There’s a reason these guys make as much in a year as your average family doctor.
Not every welder will ever get to this level, but there are plenty of them.

If your only experience welding is what you’ve heard second hand, or the time you welded a bumper on a piece of $hite truck you should STFU when the subject of welding is discussed.

Nothing but truth there....

I didn’t read it. I figured out a long time ago, that when someone simply asks what time it is, they’re generally not interested in learning how clocks are made.

One things for sure tho, this pissing contest has blown cashkings board feet thread out of the water.
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They are a sensitive bunch for sure.


Who knew?


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
They are a sensitive bunch for sure.


Who knew?

And those that want to carry on about how clocks are made don't have a single foggy clue......

Who knew?


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Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.

Nobody said Boots is dumb, not a single soul.

If you could only contribute welding knowledge to a thread about welding knowledge your presence would be more tolerable.

But you can't, because you don't.


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Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?

Someone said earlier, way before you crawled your sorry old drunk ass out of the bed, that do-nuthin/know-nuthin people like you should STFU.

You should probably STFU.


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?

Someone said earlier, way before you crawled your sorry old drunk ass out of the bed, that do-nuthin/know-nuthin people like you should STFU.

You should probably STFU.

You aren't doing yourself any favors here "feral".


Go read Flintlocke's post again and curl up in your blankie.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?

Someone said earlier, way before you crawled your sorry old drunk ass out of the bed, that do-nuthin/know-nuthin people like you should STFU.

You should probably STFU.

You aren't doing yourself any favors here "feral".


Go read Flintlocke's post again and curl up in your blankie.

Ass-holes and bullies hate it when they're called out.

Don't you......


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.

Nobody said Boots is dumb, not a single soul.

If you could only contribute welding knowledge to a thread about welding knowledge your presence would be more tolerable.

But you can't, because you don't.

This thread was never about welding knowledge until it got dragged that way. It was about a guy that wants to earn a little extra money with his trade in his spare time. Some of you guys seem to think he needs to certify on pressure vessels just to fix a phugin wagon tongue. SMH

and I do know a thing or two about "clocks"

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Originally Posted by Bay1975
I see some of you morons are still at it.

I spent all day visually inspecting welds and getting the appropriate NDE done. Like any, ANY occupation you will have both ends of the spectrum as for as abilities. Some work really hard to barley make it while others make it look easy.
Welding is no different.

What makes welding particularly different in one respect, is the amount of stupid people that believe they know anything about the subject. It’s really a curious thing.

You don’t see the same thing in other professions. A heart surgeon doesn’t have to listen to some mouth breathing retard trying to either give advice on his technique or try to convince home he’s over paid and under qualified lol.

Some of the comments here and what I’ve heard in person is down right retarted. What is required to be a certified welder the difference between the various welding codes, the difficulty of the various alloys to weld the different welding processes the difference between a pipeline welder, a structural welder, a refinery welder all of it may as well be written in Chinese backwards for all the good it does the average moron that feels compelled to comment on anything welding related.

It’s fascinating really. And for some reason the less welding ability one of these smooth brains have the more determined they are to try and down grade the profession?

Here are some facts for the smooth brains.
1. Structural welding including ship yards, fence building, trailer building, junk iron repair welding and your alcoholic uncle trying to weld a hole in a bush hog deck are the very basic lower skill level, entry level welding.
2. Pipe line welders are welding to one of the less stringent codes. The acceptance criteria for 1104 is easier than the refinery codes, period. No matter what your bumper sticker says.
3. Fab shop welders be they pipe, tube or structural are welding in a controlled environment where everything that can be done to make the welding easier ( read faster, more efficient, to make more money for the shop) has been done.
4. Of the various refinery pipe welding jobs. Tube welding in boilers and furnaces are the top of the difficulty levels. A lot of the tube welds are graded severe on the RT (X-ray) for the dumbasses that means any defect of any size is rejectable. It requires a nearly perfectly made weld in the tightest, sometimes hottest environment you can work in. Sometimes under fresh air respirators, often times with mirrors. These are the best of the best. I know because I’ve welded in every level from a ship yard to the highest paying tube welding jobs there was.

For some comparisons. I know and have worked with some young guys no more than 22-23 years old. These were some of the fastest and best welders I’ve ever seen. Lay out all night drinking, show up late and run thru more welds in a day than any other welders on the job 3 to 1. Never have a repair never have anything visible on a weld that I’d have to get them to fix. Smart assed attitude, cocky and able to back it up. There’s a reason these guys make as much in a year as your average family doctor.
Not every welder will ever get to this level, but there are plenty of them.

If your only experience welding is what you’ve heard second hand, or the time you welded a bumper on a piece of $hite truck you should STFU when the subject of welding is discussed.


Damn straight.
I can stick together .032" 4130 with a tig rig but don't consider myself a welder, that is reserved for guys I worked with as a fitter that did stuff like back welding tube sheets with 2 mirrors or hooking 2 machines together and bundling three 5/32" 316 filler wires together to make a 1 pass weld on a H2S tank at 3 am in a stinking mill, or welding gold annodes in tv transmitter tubes.

That said, a welder is just a fitter's tool.


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?

Someone said earlier, way before you crawled your sorry old drunk ass out of the bed, that do-nuthin/know-nuthin people like you should STFU.

You should probably STFU.

You aren't doing yourself any favors here "feral".


Go read Flintlocke's post again and curl up in your blankie.

Ass-holes and bullies hate it when they're called out.

Don't you......


Hahaha!

Sure thing Superwelder.


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Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.

Nobody said Boots is dumb, not a single soul.

If you could only contribute welding knowledge to a thread about welding knowledge your presence would be more tolerable.

But you can't, because you don't.

This thread was never about welding knowledge until it got dragged that way. It was about a guy that wants to earn a little extra money with his trade in his spare time. Some of you guys seem to think he needs to certify on pressure vessels just to fix a phugin wagon tongue. SMH

and I do know a thing or two about "clocks"

Ag repair welding is the last thing I would get into.

I would build stuff for people. Clean stuff.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?

Someone said earlier, way before you crawled your sorry old drunk ass out of the bed, that do-nuthin/know-nuthin people like you should STFU.

You should probably STFU.

You aren't doing yourself any favors here "feral".


Go read Flintlocke's post again and curl up in your blankie.

Ass-holes and bullies hate it when they're called out.

Don't you......


Hahaha!

Sure thing Superwelder.

My bloodline isn't shy about holding a grudge for forever and a day.

I don't back down to people like you...or people that would defend the likes of you.

So either you quit and move on, or you get used to it.

Choices......


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Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.

Nobody said Boots is dumb, not a single soul.

If you could only contribute welding knowledge to a thread about welding knowledge your presence would be more tolerable.

But you can't, because you don't.

This thread was never about welding knowledge until it got dragged that way. It was about a guy that wants to earn a little extra money with his trade in his spare time. Some of you guys seem to think he needs to certify on pressure vessels just to fix a phugin wagon tongue. SMH

and I do know a thing or two about "clocks"

Asking a question about welding isn't seeking what others know about it?

Okay then......

Yeah, it got drug sideways.

Go back and read my first post.


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.

Nobody said Boots is dumb, not a single soul.

If you could only contribute welding knowledge to a thread about welding knowledge your presence would be more tolerable.

But you can't, because you don't.

This thread was never about welding knowledge until it got dragged that way. It was about a guy that wants to earn a little extra money with his trade in his spare time. Some of you guys seem to think he needs to certify on pressure vessels just to fix a phugin wagon tongue. SMH

and I do know a thing or two about "clocks"

Asking a question about welding isn't seeking what others know about it?

Okay then......

Yeah, it got drug sideways.

Go back and read my first post.

Being self employed, I’ve been doing mobile welding and on/off site fab n repair for 35+ years. Flintlocks is the only person on this thread that has offered or added anything of relevance to the OP original question imo.

Anyone that’s looking to go out on their own and do mobile welding had better be able to do a whole lot more than just burn rods and bend coupons.
Being a good welder is one thing, but if you can’t Use Your Head to apply all the tools of the trade to get the job done, you might as well have two ass*holes.

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Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Who knew?


Service truck dude is dumb because tubes and x rays.


You guys have been jerking each other off for way too long.

Nobody said Boots is dumb, not a single soul.

If you could only contribute welding knowledge to a thread about welding knowledge your presence would be more tolerable.

But you can't, because you don't.

This thread was never about welding knowledge until it got dragged that way. It was about a guy that wants to earn a little extra money with his trade in his spare time. Some of you guys seem to think he needs to certify on pressure vessels just to fix a phugin wagon tongue. SMH

and I do know a thing or two about "clocks"

Asking a question about welding isn't seeking what others know about it?

Okay then......

Yeah, it got drug sideways.

Go back and read my first post.

Being self employed, I’ve been doing mobile welding and on/off site fab n repair for 35+ years. Flintlocks is the only person on this thread that has offered or added anything of relevance to the OP original question imo.

Anyone that’s looking to go out on their own and do mobile welding had better be able to do a whole lot more than just burn rods and bend coupons.
Being a good welder is one thing, but if you can’t use your head you might as well have two ass*holes.


And you've made my case.....

Boots can do whatever he pleases, but we're it me, I don't want a thing to do with a mobile service, for a lot of reasons. I did it for a couple years working out of a fab shop back in the 80s, and not much has changed.

One, the good work is already taken by established guys such as yourself, and to get in you have to undercut them. That's shooting yourself in the foot unless you have a really long term plan and that includes going full time. That's not what Boots is wanting.

Two, if there are any fab shops around, you have to compete with them because the vast majority of broke shi t is something people can load up and drag to town, which negates calling out the expensive mobile truck.

And Three, I don't have the people skills to deal with 95% of the clientele out there. The know-it-all but can't-do people who think something should be fixed for five bucks, not for more than the cost of simply replacing it.

Nah, the day job is plenty. For the last 13 years I've dealt with one supervisor that leaves me the hell alone, and two inspection deck guys that know if I did the work, it's been done right. The paycheck drops every single Friday morning, and life don't suck.


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Feral_American
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

Fragile and poor on comprehension.


Why don't you go find another super welder to hold you while you cry?

Someone said earlier, way before you crawled your sorry old drunk ass out of the bed, that do-nuthin/know-nuthin people like you should STFU.

You should probably STFU.

You aren't doing yourself any favors here "feral".


Go read Flintlocke's post again and curl up in your blankie.

Ass-holes and bullies hate it when they're called out.

Don't you......


Hahaha!

Sure thing Superwelder.

My bloodline isn't shy about holding a grudge for forever and a day.

I don't back down to people like you...or people that would defend the likes of you.

So either you quit and move on, or you get used to it.

Choices......

Oh like I give a shìt.

We gonna meet at Loretta Lynn's restaurant?


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